Lemmy political pov: the universe should be free and open source
It specifically needs to run Linux.. also there is a literal war about which distro it should use
Debian. It should run debian. We should genocide arch users.
You will never stamp us out btw!
They don't call us the bleeding edge for nothin'
It’s the algorithms. Except 4chan where that’s just how it do.
4chan was simply where everyone banned for extreme views everywhere else went because there were no rules or close to none.
Now as algorithms of social media sites have been chosen to dictate our daily news cycle, discussion topics and visibility of culture by engagement metrics alone, as are dominated by flashy, extremist content that appeals to our lowest instincts. Before humans curated content by trying to use human reasoning instead of relying on instinct alone. I think we have taken a step backwards in evolution culturally.
Redditors are communists? News to me.
They mixed up Lemmy and Reddit, Reddit is full of alt-right bigots
Lmao this is just as ridiculous as them saying Reddit is communist. Massive exaggeration in both cases
Can agree. On Lemmy now and I can feel the ghost of Marx over my shoulder whispering about the proletariat.
Nah liberals make up the majority of Reddit, the rightoids are just more active politically.
Image from 2021, I was on reddit then, I am a communist. Checks out
People with extreme views are also more vocal, so that's what you see. That's why social media is bad for you. If gives you a very distorted view of the world. Most people are able to look at politics with nuance.
This, plus everyone is concerned with engagement. If I say a perfectly normal statement on Facebook or X or whatever, no one will care so no one will comment or interact with it. If I say that Jesus wants us to make America white again, even the people who disagree with me will only be boosting my message by commenting.
Jesus wants us to make America white again
I love this. It's so dumb in so many different ways, but I can easily see people unironically saying it.
Social media politics is confirmation bias by design.
A few of my opinions that are less popular here:
I have no desire to debate any of those here. I talk politics with friends and in person and I try to remain skeptical especially of facts that happen to go my way.
One factual point: we haven't tried communism, we tried socialism. Communism was more of a faraway ideal.
Not debating substance of the claims, as debate not asked for.
Enlightened centrist thoughts intensify
People even use centralism as a weapon as well though. They push the idea that the correct position in any debate is slap bang in the middle. Sometimes there is a demonstrably correct answer, and sitting in the middle is a bad thing.
But they'll argue to the death that sitting on the fence is the best thing to do in every situation. I've had people claim that the Ukrainians should just negotiate with Russia (assuming that would be even be possible) because that would be the middle option between fighting them and surrendering.
Centrism is a sign of a healthy, functioning Democracy. People are allowed to hold nuanced beliefs that don't line up with yours and this "enlightened centrist" bullshit is just pure tribalism from people on the far fringes. You are contributing to creating an "in group" and an "out group" which historically has worked out very well for persons living in Communist and Fascist societies.
Being center of left and right means being about where the Democractic Party in the US is. Anyone who considers themself a "centrist" between Democrats and Republicans is right-wing because the GOP is so far, far right and the Dems are so center-left.
Discourse evaporated when the rightwing and Faux "News" declared "compromise" as blasphemy. That's why so many moderate Republicans will still vote along party lines, despite knowing the candidate is batshit crazy. To vote Democrat is to commit suicide to those people.
Edit: was trying to get this comment done before kid woke up from nap and barely made it. Fixed the faux pa.
Holy strawman. Ironically, by reducing all those platforms to one extremist opinion he is doing exactly the same thing he is whining about.
It's an exaggeration about the stereotypical opinions from those platforms
The media has tried very hard to normalize extremism.
Funny key then
Ducking autocorrect I meant: Don't let them.
Its probably because extremists don't feel comfortable expressing their views in their everyday life, so they do it online instead, where they have some anonymity or at least don't face the same backlash as they would if they were to voice their opinions at work or at a bar or something.
Also, controversial takes get more engagement, which means more ad revenue.
Internet also helps gather these people together.
In the past if you were a "weird person" you would not find too many people that resonated with you and eventually many would just "normalize".
Now doesn't matter what kind of shitty take you have, there are always some group of people who thinks the same and will echoing each other
I dunno but northern European socialism is looking pretty ok to me lately.
They're voting in anti-immgrant right wing politicians. Same with Germany, Spain, and France
That's not a fiscal policy. A country or block of countries can be right about 1 thing and wrong about others.
If there's one thing the right are good at it's indoctrination. They co-opt spaces and then use them to infect people with their mindset.
And damn is it ever effective. Someone close to me is normally a leftist – she proudly supports her union (and unions in general), is strongly in favor of LGBT+ rights and environmental protection, mistrusts most political parties as they're too much in bed with big business etc.
However, she also hangs out on 9GAG, which apparently has been pretty much taken over by the right. This has greatly affected her views on immigrants since she's exposed to unchallenged right-wing drivel every day. It was "fun" when she told me how refugee facilities are hotbeds of violent crime and then it turned out that the unspecified statistics she was basing this on were mostly about violence against refugees.
(Not that those camps perfectly safe by themselves but not in the way right wingers make it sound like refugees and immigrants (who are conflated) are all violent anarchists who are above the law.)
Recently she just had to share this "joke" with me. The whole thing consisted of two police officers with Turkish names finding a generic German name exotic. That was it; I couldn't find any punchline in there, just a "the immigrants are replacing us" message. I'm just writing for the day when I hear the word "Überfremdung" ("overforeigning", a standard term of the far right) out of her mouth.
It goes on like that. Politically she's convinced that the Greens are completely unviable as a party and the worst part of the current government – the FDP (our liberal party for rich people) gets no mention despite being diametrically opposed to most of her core views. Ricarda Lang (a Green politician) being fat is much more important and will never get old.
I have no idea how to counter this but I'm afraid that she'll drift off into the hard right with time. She seems unwilling to accept that her main source of funnies is also chock full of right wing propaganda.
No country in Northern Europe has Socialism. They have a strong social welfare system on top of a capitalist economy. Aka Social Democracy. Not even close to socialism.
The more extreme someone's views, the more likely they are to talk about them.
People with moderate views generally avoid talking politics as much as possible.
Plenty of people with moderate views are passionate about politics and love to talk about it. Its just that they talk about boring stuff like policy positions and numbers.
Lemmy is a combination of Twitter and Reddit.
"Communism is inherently racist and homophobic" or "All white people never fail"?
True whiteness has never been implemented.
We’re here…we just don’t shout as much the others. We’re probably reading a book quietly in the other room.
I pictured literal sheep in Halloween masks at first. I thought it was just insane person Facebook.
If I did see a whole flock of sheep in Halloween masks, I would have something to say...
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