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submitted 9 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

Nearly a quarter of people seeking an abortion in the United States were unable to get one due to bans that took effect after the Supreme Court’s Dobbs decision, researchers estimate. In the first half of 2023, states with abortion bans had an average fertility rate that was 2.3% higher than states where abortion was not restricted, according to the analysis – leading to about 32,000 more births than expected.

The findings are based on preliminary births data from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The research has not yet been peer-reviewed but experts say the data paints a clear picture about the direct impact of abortion restrictions.

“It’s an assault on reproductive autonomy,” said Alison Gemmill, an assistant professor at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health. She was not involved in the new analysis, but has published research on the effect that a strict abortion law had on births in Texas.

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[-] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 97 points 9 months ago

Conservatives: all part of the plan

Meanwhile everyone else us wondering what the effect of all those unwanted children will have in the next 30 years for those families.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 47 points 9 months ago

Wait until those conservatives find out that POC are having more kids than white people (in part due to less access to affordable contraception).

[-] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 34 points 9 months ago

My coworker brought up that point at a party and omfg if I had camera out it would have been a viral meme.

[-] RedAggroBest@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago

Then they'll continue to defund social services, wait for those kids to get old enough to commit crimes as poverty often encourages, then they'll collect that fat check from private prison lobbyists. Slavery with extra steps.

[-] Pirky@lemmy.world 38 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I would recommend looking up Decree 770 that Romania enacted in 1967. I think we can expect a similar fallout to that if we choose not to help these kids.

[-] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 41 points 9 months ago

From wiki "the argument that children who are born after their mothers are refused an abortion are much more likely to commit crimes or refuse to recognize authority when they reach adulthood. They further argue that the Decreței are exactly the same people who spearheaded the Romanian revolution where Ceaușescu's regime was violently overthrown in 1989"

This is kind of what I expected. Good to know there was data supporting it for my future discussions.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 24 points 9 months ago

the effect of all those unwanted children will have in the next 30 years for those families.

Conservatives: also part of the plan

[-] RedditReject@lemmy.world 91 points 9 months ago

We are likely going to see a rise in infant and maternal mortality rates as well. Most of the states that outright banned abortion are also ones where they didn't expand Medicaid and have fewer hospitals

[-] billiam0202@lemmy.world 34 points 9 months ago

And in 20 years, a spike in crimes.

[-] PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works 16 points 9 months ago

Which will continue to feed the prison industrial complex. The cycle continues.

[-] scaredoftrumpwinning@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Glad someone mentioned this.

[-] SuiXi3D@kbin.social 18 points 9 months ago

Already have.

[-] Ranvier@sopuli.xyz 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Not to mention all the obgyns fleeing those states. Doctors want to help people, but they don't want to be thrown in jail for life (and they certainty can't help anyone from there). The procedures used for abortion are an integral part of reproductive medicine and save many lives. In these states prosecutors and judges are breathing down doctors necks, second guessing their judgment on when someone is critically ill enough to warrant an abortion. There's already women in those states who know their pregnancy is non viable, know they need an abortion, know that continuing on with the pregnancy will put their lives at risk, but the doctors that still remain have their hands tied to help until they start decompensating when it may already be too late.

Residents being trained in those states are already having trouble getting experience with these important life saving procedures. In some cases programs are trying work around like sending residents to train in other states for a time. But getting a short temporary rotation with just a few procedures is not the same, and surgeries are safer the more repetitions a surgeon has had. Abortion bans are making the entire country less safe, especially so if they get their way and ban it across the entire country and it becomes near impossible to get good training anywhere. Besides all the other obvious implications.

[-] SeaJ@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

They are also more likely to have maternity wards close.

[-] SeaJ@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

They are also more likely to have maternity wards close.

[-] Leviathan@lemmy.world 65 points 9 months ago

Just fresh slaves for the prison industrial complex. All part of the plan.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 19 points 9 months ago

I think assuming it's just for prison industry is short-sighted. It's also to increase competition for labor so the capitalists can pay the absolute minimum to people begging to work for them. Even if we fix the prison slave labor issue, regular labor is still being exploited, and this is all by design.

[-] Leviathan@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

Totally agree. The issues are always complex, thank you for the perspective.

[-] scaredoftrumpwinning@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Working as designed, they probably need military fodder too.

[-] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 9 months ago

I can also make some predictions on the direction the poverty and criminality rates are going to go on those states.

[-] Ulvain@sh.itjust.works 12 points 9 months ago

Yup, Ney York crime statistics were a perfect case study for that, i can't remember the name of the documentary

[-] reptar@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

I don't know about a documentary but I believe economist Stephen Levitt (sp?) put this theory forward.

[-] Additional_Prune@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago

32,000 more unwanted kids. I'm sure they'll have great lives. /s

[-] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 7 points 9 months ago

They can get meat packing jobs after kindergarten.

[-] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago

Gonna need a helluva lot more foster/adoptive parents in a couple years.

[-] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 15 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

We can go to those abortion rights protest with a sign up sheet.

[-] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Good luck getting signatures. There are people who have done this, and they all gave an excuse as to why they can't do it.

Edit: for clarity: The Pro-lifers or Anti-abortionists make excuses as to why they can't take in these kids.

[-] garretble@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

I'm pretty sure I've seen a video of someone doing just that and getting zero signatures.

[-] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 11 points 9 months ago

Who could have seen this coming /s

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