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[-] Kidplayer_666@lemm.ee 115 points 11 months ago

All of humanities technological advancements can be summed up in ever more complex ways to boil water

[-] FederatedSaint@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago

That's why photovoltaics need much more R&D. They are the only true advancement in electricity production since the inception of broadly adopted electrification.

[-] Kidplayer_666@lemm.ee 31 points 11 months ago

Exactly why we should ditch them. We shall not break tradition. Praise be the turbine

[-] Restaldt@lemm.ee 13 points 11 months ago
[-] Opafi@feddit.de 9 points 11 months ago

It doesn't rotate to generate electricity? Must be blasphemy.

[-] snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works 8 points 11 months ago

Blessed be the holy turbine, we seek guidance in its rotation. Long may it spin and bring forth a bounteous current.

[-] vithigar@lemmy.ca 6 points 11 months ago

Also fuel cells.

[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago

Hey we burn things just for heat too.

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago
[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

We heat homes, smelt ore, many industrial things.

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago
[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Not only water as per the original comment. You need heat to smelt ore and do any number of industrial things to progress society.

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

But then you quench that ore in water! It's just heating water with extra steps!

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[-] PoisonedPrisonPanda@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 11 months ago

I think to be more general it boils down to just oxidate stuff.

/pun intended

[-] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 7 points 11 months ago

Boil shit, burn shit, and blow shit up. Humans in a nut shell.

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago

That's all "burn shit".

[-] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago

Most of the biggest advances in technology is just about moving liquids. Rocket science is really just large scale HVAC.

[-] zepheriths@lemmy.world 41 points 11 months ago

Oh boy just wait till you hear how fossil fuels work

[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 38 points 11 months ago

That's just steam power with extra steps!

I've got bad news for ya bruv

[-] TonyToniToneOfficial@lemmy.ml 32 points 11 months ago

Wait till you find out how nuclear fusion makes electricity

[-] SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world 26 points 11 months ago

You mean, how it will in 20 years?

[-] TonyToniToneOfficial@lemmy.ml 17 points 11 months ago

Perpetually so

[-] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago

Helion's approach is actually different. They are attempting to capture energy directly through induction. I hope it pans out for them, seems like a really interesting approach.

[-] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago
[-] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Here's a video I saw a few months back you might find interesting:

https://youtu.be/_bDXXWQxK38?si=7XooWphajO6OlRB5

[-] Zaphod@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 11 months ago

There's actually two (at least that I know of) ways for fusion to generate electricity, this is a newer one https://youtu.be/uRaQLZaaHWo?si=DTwV26inm1pyrYn8

[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Don't leave us ice cold.

[-] DenialOfIntelligence 25 points 11 months ago
[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago

Our entire society* has been based on burning things. Then we progressed to... burning atoms.

(*Exceptions I can think of is solar, wind, hydro.)

[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 12 points 11 months ago

Then we're leaching off the sun burning atoms.

[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)
[-] joyjoy@lemm.ee 10 points 11 months ago

Solar farms did start out as using the sun to boil water. Basically mirrors redirecting light to a central point to super-heat a pipe flowing with water.

[-] FederatedSaint@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

Wind and hydro still have to spin a turbine. Solar is the one true stand out advancement in electricity production since we started using electricity.

[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

They spin it directly though, not via steam.

[-] Opafi@feddit.de 1 points 11 months ago

Technically, as long as there's more than zero percent humidity I guess wind turbines are still powered by steam. And hydro is essentially steam, too, just the cooler version.

[-] Zellith@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

To be fair, the atoms were going to burn anyhow. We just clumped them together to make better use of them.

[-] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

They can't all be photonic inversion.

[-] Draconic_NEO@mander.xyz 2 points 11 months ago

Well Rotating a rotor on a generator is the most convenient way to make electricity with parts that last a long amount of time. Also doesn't help that we use AC power while other sources like photovoltaic produce DC power which needs to be converted to be used.

[-] perishthethought@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

Don't forget about the deadly waste product!

[-] rtxn@lemmy.world 32 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)
[-] Th4tGuyII@kbin.social 14 points 11 months ago

Kyle Hill has done so much good in combating the absolute minefield of fearmongering and misinformation surrounding Nuclear power.

As long as you play by the rules, it's incredibly safe. It's when you start taking shortcuts and start fucking around that you find out... and there are plenty of things more likely to kill you than nuclear.

[-] Rozauhtuno 5 points 11 months ago

Not to mention coal also releases radioactive particles too, but instead of being safely contained they're released into the air you breathe.

But hey, it's invisible, so it's less scary!

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