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[-] ghostalmedia@beehaw.org 33 points 1 year ago

Not a great day for social media. Twitter down, Reddit has not 3rd party apps, Lemmy is being hugged to death by people bailing Reddit and Twitter.

I guess I’ll go outside.

[-] NettoHikari@social.fossware.space 29 points 1 year ago

Lemmy isn't hugged to death. The issue is that everyone is just heading to the same handful of instances.

[-] Cartman@lemmywinks.com 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Maybe they should update the join-lemmy.org page to suggest joining smaller instances. They put popular instances at the top and presumably that’s what everyone wants to join.

Edit: and then randomize the list of smaller instances to further distribute the load.

Yes, that's most likely the cause.

[-] rin@pcglinks.com 10 points 1 year ago

I didn’t realize this until I started self-hosting my own instance, but if you don’t join one of the 3 large instances (beehaw, world, ml) then you miss out on a LOT of historical content. The way federation works is that it only pulls in new post/comments after someone on your instance subscribes to a community on another instance. So if you find a cool new community on another instance, you can subscribe to see any new posts and comments, but you won’t see any of the old content at all unless you manually search for the post/comment.

Long winded way of saying, the best user experience (content wise) is always going to be on the largest instances unless Lemmy/ActivityPub changes how content backfilling works.

[-] cupcakezealot 5 points 1 year ago

It's just the fediverse. My timeline is nothing but hugs and love. :3

That's another way to see it. 🥰

[-] chaorace@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago

Here's the current usershare breakdown by instance, if anyone's curious:

A pie chart depicting the top instances by usershare. The lemmy.world instance is in the top spot with 1/3 of the total usershare. The majority of the remaining pie is shared between the next 17 largest instances. The remaining 1/5 of the pie contains all other Lemmy instances.

Source: https://github.com/tgxn/lemmy-explorer/tree/main/frontend/public/data

[-] IcedCoffeeBitch@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

Lemmy.world is getting a very big chunk, but other than that it actually seems fairly distributed.

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[-] AlternateRoute@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Really everyone always wants to be on the most popular "site" instance to ensure it will just not go away suddenly. After that they go for ones that give them a cool @ domain name. This is how email and Jabber/XMPP worked for years. Modern fediverse should be using some form of modern distributed identity, not 1965 email style identities.

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[-] diskmaster23@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

Like, which one?

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[-] MangoPenguin 11 points 1 year ago

The instance I'm on is working fine, I think the problem is people are gravitating towards the largest 2-3 instances.

[-] chickenwing@lemmy.film 3 points 1 year ago

This is true. I was having a lot of issues with lemmy.ml it's getting overwhelmed. I wish there was an easy way to carry over subscriptions between accounts.

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[-] briongloid@aussie.zone 4 points 1 year ago

2023 has been historical for social media, so much changing so fast.

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[-] 312@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago

I truly don't understand why people keep trying to use Twitter despite open and obvious changes designed to be hostile to users. Not to mention the reliability issues that continue to crop up as a result of axing nearly your entire engineering staff.

[-] Cube6392@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago

Some people can't figure out Mastodon, but I don't think enough of the people who can't figure out mastodon are realizing that nothing would be better than twitter. And I mean literally just not doing social media anymore would be a marked improvement over using twitter

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[-] azureeight@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

sunk cost fallacy is a hell of a drug. it's also why a lot of people stay in bad relationships (friends/romantic/family/etc)

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[-] SMTRodent@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

My choices now are

Mastodon
Lemmy
Kbin
Actually edit the novel

[-] arcticpiecitylights@beehaw.org 12 points 1 year ago

I've been feeling a significant amount of sadness at the feeling like I've now fully lost the 2 places that were my havens for safety and community during the pandemic (Twitter and Reddit). I mostly disconnected a few weeks/months ago, but this weekend feels like the full, official breakup. I wonder if anyone/everyone else is feeling the same?

[-] Cube6392@beehaw.org 15 points 1 year ago

Yesterday felt to me like the day Web 2.0 died. It's actually rather awkward. Web 2.0 devolved into enshittification, Web 3.0 to many looks to be a scam from the outset, and that leaves us with the Fediverse as the most hopeful continuation of what we liked about Web 2.0. But what is the Fediverse? More of the same as Web 2.0? An entirely new thing? I've been coming to view the Fediverse as being Web 2.0.1. It's a bug fix. The corporations controlling Web 2.0 were the problem, not the idea of a more dynamic and interactive web. The solution isn't strictly speaking Peer 2 Peer solutions, as many people still want a curated and moderated space, so they're not dealing with a constant onslaught of dicks and nazis they didn't ask for (I'm sure someday the Peer 2 Peer networks will have a viable solution for that, but for now, they don't as far as I can tell). But a networked governance structure in which volunteers own the instances and the users have more choice in how their space is moderated seems like a major fix to what we were seeing before, and I think it's a major benefit for all of us

[-] arcticpiecitylights@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

I've been really intrigued by the developments coming from the Web0 / small web train of thought. https://web0.small-web.org/

[-] communication@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Totally. I was just thinking about how my very specific life circumstances mean that I'm otherwise distracted and handling it pretty well. But if I were in a rough patch right now this situation would be really, really, really hard. I hope the people in that situation are okay and finding new refuge in places like this ❤

[-] hybridhavoc@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago

The "scraping" they are claiming may be coming from inside the house, so to speak, as it appears they are DDoSing themselves.

[-] 70ms@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago

Okay, now THAT is fucking hilarious and if true, I'm living for it.

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago

The "disconnect a random rack" approach to tech management.

[-] LittleKerr@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

NO WAY

HAHAHAH Musk you are a genius!!

[-] cupcakezealot 9 points 1 year ago

I'm overdosing on schadenfreude right now.

[-] Helluin@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

apareantly theyre agressively rate limiting: 300 posts per day for new accounts, 600 for unverified, 6000 for verified

[-] cupcakezealot 8 points 1 year ago

I bet Elon is furiously Googling how to downgrade to a micro/free tier instance on AWS.

[-] x86x87@lemmy.one 3 points 1 year ago

Big brain idea: keep creating aws accounts. Use free tier! Profit!

[-] Walop@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 year ago

Some people cannot seem to even be able to login.

[-] QuantumEyetanglement@lemmy.one 8 points 1 year ago

Let's get them over to Mastodon! #fediverse (yes I'm going all in)

[-] Thintalle@feddit.de 7 points 1 year ago

What is happening to my internet?! ): It's all going downhill.

[-] 4th_Times_A_Charm@sopuli.xyz 13 points 1 year ago
[-] Walop@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 year ago

It's like having most of the content and communication being hosted by few corporations running on the faith of investors and struggling to realize the expected profits was a bad thing.

[-] NoNipArtBf 2 points 1 year ago

Cory Doctorow explains this pretty well here

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[-] DJDarren@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago

Just went over to Twitter for the first time in a while, and everyone's bleating about wanting an invite to Bluesky.

Meanwhile, Mastodon's over there just working fine and doing what they want Twitter to do.

It's bizarre.

[-] rimlogger@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

Normies are confused by Mastodon and how it works. Tried suggesting it as an alternative on /r/worldnews and most people just said that it was too confusing; one guy said that he couldn't login but turns out he forgot which instance he had signed up for originally.

[-] MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

It's time to abandon Twitter to the fascists and bots.

[-] twilightmeow@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

I have to say the silver lining in all of this is that decentralized forms of community building are on the rise, and this is a good thing. I don't think it's healthy to centralize all data and power in the hands of private companies that can decide to, oh you know, kill api access etc.

[-] ekZeno@feddit.it 2 points 1 year ago

I was able to login 🤷‍♂️

[-] pewgar_seemsimandroid 1 points 1 year ago

good thing i don't use reddit much

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