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[-] MidRomney@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago

Honestly surprised it isn't 100% of Americans with how much Teflon there is out there

[-] psmgx@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

Oh you're getting pfas chems, just not from the water

[-] dhcmrlchtdj__@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago
[-] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

It has electrolytes! It's what plants crave!

[-] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Here's a map showing where the contamination is at its worst ... and it's terrifying.

Fort Worth has 7 contaminants and is 760% over EPA minimum reporting levels.

Phoenix has 2 contaminants and is 433% over EPA minimum reporting levels.

Vancouver, WA has 7 contaminants and is 352% over EPA minimum reporting levels.

Wilmington, DE has 7 contaminants and is 693% over EPA minimum reporting levels.

Edit to add ...

Augusta has 6 contaminants and is 1606% over EPA minimum levels.

[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Woodbury, MN has a couple sections around that and another section at over 5800%. And I believe that's over the proposed limits, not over minimum reporting levels.

[-] ChillPenguin@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Great! Glad I grew up there!

[-] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

I went by the explanation on the map.

This map shows water systems included in the EPA's records, as of Nov. 9. It’s based on boundaries developed by SimpleLab, a water-testing company. Click on a system to see the number of pollutants detected at or above the EPA's minimum reporting levels and by what percent they exceeded those limits.

[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Oh ok, I was going by the legend text and assumed incorrectly about what "limit" meant. Though I'm not sure there is a maximum or if anything over the minimum reporting limit is unsafe.

[-] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

I believe "minimum reporting levels" is just the level at which everything must be reported by the state to the EPA (so below the minimum level would not need to be reported).

[-] June@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Damn. Another reason I’m glad to have gotten out of Vancouver.

[-] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Hahaha Broken Arrow Oklahoma the city who thinks that only the rich should be allowed to live 50% containment. Coweta is fucked.

[-] lennybird@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

One of my best investments has been a multi-stage RO system.

Do you know of a good brand for RO filtration? With the way our infrastructure is crumbling I would enjoy the extra peace of mind if clean water.

[-] o0joshua0o@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

I know you're probably asking about whole home solutions, but for pitchers, Zero Water is a good brand specifically for PFAS.

[-] frogfruit@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

We just replaced ours with an RO system because we got tired of changing the filters every 2-3 weeks on ours, and that it smelled like fish tank when the filter was bad.

[-] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

https://www.uswatersystems.com/ is who I went with.

If you're willing to spend $$$ and want professional installation, https://www.kinetico.com/ might be worth a look as well.

[-] Microplasticbrain@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

I got a countertop one on amazon called bluevua, it has a reading for the water quality in and out, im pretty happy with it

[-] GreenMario@lemm.ee 21 points 1 year ago

That's cool I didn't want to live long anyways.

[-] pan_troglodytes@programming.dev 7 points 1 year ago

arent forever chemicals the leading cause of immortality? /s

[-] arin@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Immortality for the cancer cells

[-] Lifecoach5000@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Well that’s just swell. Are any of these ever found in bottled water?

[-] Fuckfuckmyfuckingass@lemmy.world 57 points 1 year ago

A lot of bottled water is just municipal tap water with a fancy logo, so probably.

[-] Pepsi@kbin.social 30 points 1 year ago

not to mention additional chemical leeching from the plastic bottles.

[-] guyrocket@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

Ever notice that plastic taste in bottled water? There's a reason it tastes like plastic.

[-] Coreidan@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Oh well. Gonna have to die some way.

I guess we all just prefer living in older times where you’re lucky if you live to 40.

[-] mriormro@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Most people lived longer into their life if they survived past childhood. Their quality of life wasn't as potentially as good in that age, obviously.

[-] Coreidan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Right and the lack of medical intervention meant that most people didn’t make it past 40.

You can’t argue the fact that average life expectancy has increased significantly thanks to technology and advancement in medical science.

Back then people would die from a simple tooth infection. That’s extraordinary rare now a days.

[-] mriormro@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Right and the lack of medical intervention meant that most people didn’t make it past 40.

People often lived well into their old age if they survived past their childhood. For instance, the average life expectancy during the Victorian era was about 73-75. (https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1258/jrsm.2008.08k037).

The average pre-industrial lifespan was around 40 but is skewed due to incredibly high child mortality rates. Wherein roughly a third didn't survive their first year and almost half didn't survive their second year (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1090513812001237#s0015).

[-] Coreidan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You’re cherry picking. Go back farther in time. The farther back you look the higher the mortality rates.

The point is on average life expectancy has increased. It scales with technology.

The fact that you’re even arguing this is ridiculous.

Do you know WHY so many people died giving birth? Do you know why so many people died in childhood? Medical technology. It’s not a mystery dude. https://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/excavations-reveal-daily-life-of-10000-years-ago-30504#

Most of the skeletons found in graves at Aşıklıhöyük belong to women and children, Özbaşaran said. “It is interesting that there was a high number of deaths among children and women. Probably many deaths occurred during birth. Epidemic diseases were also prevalent. We determined that the average age of death was between 25 and 30 in Aşıklıhöyük, which is very young. A man who died between the ages of 45 and 50 had one of the longest lives.”

[-] mriormro@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You’re cherry picking. Go back farther in time. The farther back you look the higher the mortality rates.

I... I've literally provided you with cited sources that also have further sources. Would you like me to gather all available studies on this subject for you?

The fact that you’re even arguing this is ridiculous

I'm not arguing anything. I'm trying to present you with new, relevant information concerning your initial statement since it's a widely spread bit of pop science that's been ~~corrected~~ updated.

[-] Coreidan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You’re trying to convince me that life expectancy hasn’t changed at all in the last 20,000 years. As if our medical break throughs have zero impact.

Are you high?

Stop.

[-] mriormro@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Again, not trying to convince you of anything. The cited sources are thorough and well articulated. I encourage you to give them a read if you'd like to become better acquainted with more contemporary findings on the lifespans of our ancestors.

Take care.

[-] Coreidan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
[-] Pepsi@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

“Im not just gonna READ some STUDY when I know SCIENCE, idiot!”

[-] Coreidan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Imagine thinking studies are always accurate and don’t have flaws. It’s ONE study little guy.

Try working on your critical thinking skills since you suck at it.

Wow you sure got me there bud. ROFL.

[-] Coreidan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

https://ourworldindata.org/life-expectancy

There you go. A study that says the complete opposite to your silly narrative with several data points and verified sources.

What do you have to say now? Can’t wait!!

[-] Ryan213@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

That's cool. Where can I get some if this Fountain of Youth elixir?? /s

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

You will live forever!

Great, so I wont age either?

Oh heavens yes, in fact you'll age faster!

[-] Ryan213@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago
[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

That's okay, I hear cancer's really fun! Personally, I'm excited!

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 5 points 1 year ago

Is water itself not a forever chemical? 🤔

[-] hakobo@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

It is not. It is pretty easy to break water down into hydrogen and oxygen.

[-] Damaskox@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Time to drill your own well, eh?

[-] Onfire@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

PFAS also dissolve easily in water, and a 2023 report from the US Geological Survey revealed that PFAS have been found in 45% of drinking water in the US, including private wells and public water supplies.

[-] Raistwalker@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 year ago

At this point pfas is everywhere. It's in the ground water, it's in our riverways, it has even been detected in the snow pack on Everest. Your best bet for minimizing it is probably treating your water before use.

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