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[-] MuhammadJesusGaySex@lemmy.world 125 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I used to beg for money. I was a homeless heroin addict. I learned some interesting stuff begging for money. Being white myself. When I asked white people for money they would often look at me with disdain. Ask black people and they’d usually help ya out. It always seemed crazy to me that the white guy with a suit would treat you like garbage, but the black guy with gang tattoos on his his face and a car that needs work would throw ya a couple of bucks. I’ve heard black people say it works the other way around for them, but I had no way to test it heh.

I’m completely opiate free now for better or for worse. I say it like that because I suffer from crippling depression. Life is not enjoyable to me anymore. But, there are a lot of homeless guys where I live. I give them money, and blankets in the winter. Honestly, I give zero shits what they spend that money on. I don’t care if it’s drugs, alcohol, toothpaste, or socks. The money, once it leaves my hand is theirs to do with as they please. As long as that money brings them even a moment of happiness. As long as I make their life a little more bearable. I’m fine with that.

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

heard black people say it works the other way around for them, but I had no way to test it heh.

I can think of one way you can attempt to test it but I really really do not recommend it. If you do however please later on claim on Twatter that it was a social experiment that got misinterpreted.

[-] EnmaAi22@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Exactly! Even if they spend it on drugs, what's the problem? Let them have their moment of relief/happiness.

As an ex opiate addict myself, maybe I can relate to them too well for most people to understand. Also, what are they to do with 5 dollars if they aren't hungry and have everything else they need at the moment?

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[-] prole@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago

Are those reports of people panhandling and walking home with a few hundred bucks a day at all accurate? Always seemed kind of like bullshit propaganda to me. I'm sure location matters quite a bit.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago

A couple of decades ago I gave a dollar to a guy begging in front of a grocery store. When I was leaving I overheard him telling the security guard that he's taking his family on vacation next week so he won't be around. Then I watched him walk all the way to the very furthest spot in the parking lot, get into a brand new van, and drive away. I was pretty pissed off because I was poor myself and a dollar meant a lot to me. This dude was taking from poor people by acting poorer, when he actually had enough money to own a brand new van and take his family on vacation.

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[-] MuhammadJesusGaySex@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

The world is a huge place and people suck. I’m sure it happens. But, in most places it’s hard to accomplish that. Here, if you’re spotted begging by the cops they’ll run you off, or arrest you.

Here we have laws that keep people from begging on the side of the road. So, that leaves gas stations. Gas stations are usually ok with it for a little while. There is an etiquette to it. Like, only ask people AFTER they go in and get what they need, and don’t go to the same spot more than like once a week. Don’t be there all day. Get what you need and leave. Bonus points if you can buy something from the gas station before you leave.

I personally only did it as the very last resort. It’s humiliating and you always have a chance of seeing someone you went to school with.

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[-] oce@jlai.lu 5 points 1 year ago

I'm one of those guys who don't give to beggars because I prefer to give through non-profits, which I do monthly. I prefer this anonymous kind of donation. I probably give more than those people who sometimes through a few dollars. So please consider this possibility too when you judge those people.

[-] MuhammadJesusGaySex@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

So, please please please don’t think that I’m poo pooing your choice. All help is valid and appreciated. But, a lot of those charities have overhead that they have to pay for. I can honestly say that in my over 10 years of being an addict and homeless. I may have received help from a charity like 5 times, and every time it was like toothpaste and socks. Which is better than nothing. But that’s why I choose to give the way I do. Just be sure to research who you’re giving money to if it’s a charity.

Also, and this is me personally. I never judged someone for not giving money. I only judged the way that they looked at me. Those micro aggressions that say things like pity, disgust, or even I’m so sorry, or I wish I could help without saying a word. If I asked and someone said I just don’t have it to give. That was totally fine. Hell, I don’t always have it to give. After all, we have to take care of ourselves first. Otherwise we can never help those in need.

[-] vivadanang@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

was discussing this the other day with a person asking for help; I don't know they were homeless but assume the situation and their state I'd highly doubt they had anything. The problem is that I get paid electronically and pay for damn near everything electronically and only touch cash every other month if that, and usually have to pay a fee to get cash.

I'd buy them a meal, hell, I'll even buy a beer for some of the people I see frequently going in to the quicky mart, but I don't cash. I also try to do my puny 'philanthropy' via community service and direct donations to planned parenthood (they will always get whatever rare few bucks I can spare).

a cashless economy is putting an even larger hit on these folk I imagine.

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[-] Dippy@lemmy.world 121 points 1 year ago

“ This homeless guy asked me for money the other day. I was about to give it to him and then i thought he was going to use it on drugs or alcohol. And then i thought, that's what i'm going to use it on. Why am i judging this poor bastard. People love to judge homeless guys. like if you give them money they're just going to waste it. Well, he lives in a box, what do you want him to do? save it up and buy a wall unit? Take a little run to the store for a throw rug and a cd rack? he's homeless.”

  • Greg Giraldo
[-] randomsnark@lemmy.ml 50 points 1 year ago

There's a similar story about CS Lewis that's much older. I originally saw it in some print source, but this (unsourced) quick Google copy-paste gives the gist:

One day, Lewis and a friend were walking down the road and came upon a street person who reached out to them for help. While his friend kept walking, Lewis stopped and proceeded to empty his wallet. When they resumed their journey, his friend asked, "What are you doing giving him your money like that? Don't you know he's just going to go squander all that on ale?" Lewis paused and replied, "That's all I was going to do with it."

Obviously it's funnier when a comedian says it, just thought it was interesting that the general idea has been around for a while. Probably as long as there's been booze and beggars tbh.

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[-] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 50 points 1 year ago

Them: don't give money to the poor and destitute, they'll just use it for drink and drugs!

Me: what do you think I was going to use it for?

[-] art@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago

If a gift of money comes with requirements on how to spend that money, it's not a gift.

[-] GlitchyDigiBun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 year ago

Nice try, Justice Thomas.

[-] Tier1BuildABear@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Maybe I don't feel like enabling a total stranger? Maybe I want to make sure I'm helping a problem with food and clothes rather than making it worse? Call it whatever the fuck you want Imma keep doing it and I don't think there's anything wrong with it

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 23 points 1 year ago

The best thing you can do is donate to food banks. Either with actual donations of food or money donations.

It's actually a good idea to give food banks money because they get no end of cookies but no fruit or vegetable.

I volunteered a food bank occasionally and we have enough pasta to survive the apocalypse. And every week people bring us even more bloody pasta. We could probably give it people to build as a shelter for themselves and still have more than we knew what to do with.

Also we have 40 bags of kale. Which I don't think anyone wants to eat even if they are starving.

[-] GlitchyDigiBun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago

Not to mention money to the homeless is subject to sales tax. Your dollar goes farther in non-profits.

[-] Waraugh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago

I’ve never heard of a drug dealer charging sales tax

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Then don't give them money directly. You can't control how they spend it.

[-] Sotuanduso@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

But if you just offer to buy them food, then people on the internet will complain at you denying them agency.

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[-] Deiv@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago

Are gift cards not gifts then?

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

No. They're a fucking burden.

[-] cvozbosher@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes, gift cards are gift cards. Gift cards, however, are not money as you can't spend them anywhere.

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[-] art@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

You can sell gift cards or regift them.

[-] onion@feddit.de 45 points 1 year ago

Not everyone knows this but you can actually combine multiple notes to make a bigger purchase

[-] Pyroglyph@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

No way, I've been looking for a £150,000 note for years so I can buy a house and you're telling me I could have bought one by adding others together???

[-] oce@jlai.lu 4 points 1 year ago

That's something big notes wouldn't teach you.

[-] sagrotan@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago

Same story, but I turned around and gave him another 5 bucks with the words "oh, sorry, I know that stuff's expensive, have a nice evening"

[-] olutukko@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

Plot twist: old lady was the drug dealer

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 18 points 1 year ago

He's not spending only the $5 on drugs! Responsibility means financing your hobbies with proper budgeting: it's called Adulting.

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

The old lady gender swapped pretty quickly

[-] kattenluik@feddit.nl 17 points 1 year ago

They confronted the homeless guy, not the lady.

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