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"We will not stop at Kyiv, Warsaw, Paris. We will stop when we feel secure." - Russian propagandist Solovyov (streamable.com)

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Russian propagandist Solovyov:

"We will not stop at Kyiv, Warsaw, Paris. We will stop when we feel secure."

What is security for Russia? The destruction of NATO?

Russia has been living in "counteraction and struggle" with external "bad enemies" for a very long time. This is how the Russian government consolidates society and explains all the problems to it.

Therefore Solovyov is right - they will not stop.

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[-] Argongas@kbin.social 93 points 1 year ago

Here's a wild thought, maybe the best security comes from being a good neighbor and cooperating with people around you.

[-] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

Russians can't trust. They grow up in a culture where corruption is common and lies more prevalent than reality. The only way a Russian can ever trust a thing is to do it themselves. The only other option is to remove anyone else who can do it better and then claim the advance as a Russian victory.

Russia can't be trusted by anyone anymore. Russians will be out for themselves, as they always are.

[-] khannie@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Ireland here. Can confirm.

[-] koolkiwi@lemmy.world 87 points 1 year ago

I mean of course they won't stop at Kyiv. They can't reach it.

[-] XYZinferno@lemmy.basedcount.com 9 points 1 year ago

Oh that's one hell of a one-liner, I like it!

[-] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago

lol. Blyats can’t take Ukraine and NATO hasn’t done more than supply weapons and intelligence.

[-] ares35@kbin.social 27 points 1 year ago

and not even the best boom-booms, either.

[-] FleetingTit@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

In your opinion what are the best boom-booms of NATO, short of nuclear devices?

[-] uphillbothways@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

AGM-158 JASSM's with CHAMP packages. Stealth cruise missiles with anti-electronics packages. Would bring down the bloodshed significantly while disabling enemy communications, launchers, radar installations, etc. These can be fired by F-16s.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counter-electronics_High_Power_Microwave_Advanced_Missile_Project

The CHAMP is superior to other electronic warfare weapons because it destroys electronics, rather than jamming which temporarily affects systems that come back online when it stops being applied....
CHAMP is capable of up to 100 shots per sortie.

[-] ChrisLicht@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

Known or suspected/hypothetical?

You gotta imagine the US has at least one or two publicly unknown weapon types socked away for a rainy day. At the outside, perhaps something crazy in the vein of Rods from God.

[-] ares35@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

the u.s. does not export 'everything' (even when excluding nuclear devices) in its arsenal.

[-] ChrisLicht@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

You know that’s right.

[-] SaakoPaahtaa@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

A single raptor would turn the whole russ*an air force into scrap metal. Like a quarter of the globes airspace would be enforced by that lmao

[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I suspect NATO would be able to deploy localized laser based anti drone weapons.

Maybe show-off their experimental ship based rail guns?

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[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/GBU-43/B_MOAB

Or whatever we've made since then.

[-] be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Any fellow old folks remember the Iraqi Information Minister and related memes? Sounds like he's been giving this Russian guy lessons....

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/comical-ali-baghdad-bob

[-] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Baghdad Blyat

[-] XYZinferno@lemmy.basedcount.com 34 points 1 year ago

If the west needs any more encouragement to assist Ukraine, here it is.

The choice is help Ukraine now, or kick the can down the road and lament when Russia is at your borders.

[-] havocpants@lemm.ee 23 points 1 year ago

The choice is help Ukraine now, or kick the can down the road and lament when Russia is at your borders.

That might seem scarier if they weren't nearly 2 years into their 3 day war against their smaller, poorer next-door neighbour.

Russia is a terrorist shithole state that needs to be dismantled. I wish my country was doing more than providing arms and training.

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[-] Bwaz@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

Because Russia is being invaded so often.

[-] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

It's Nazi Germany all over again. Once you declared "total war" there is no way to escalate further and also no way to back down again.

[-] CobblerScholar@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

Then just die of fright you absolutely cowards, if you think that defending hospitals, schools and civilian apartment buildings is a threat to Russia then just die. If you think a free and honest press is a threat to your government then just die because no sane person will look at your actions and let you continue unabated

[-] joneskind@beehaw.org 20 points 1 year ago

Do Russians people truly believe they would stand a chance against the whole fucking NATO?

Propaganda is one thing, but that’s pure delusion.

[-] XYZinferno@lemmy.basedcount.com 7 points 1 year ago

It's why I imagine the Russian government has been trying to frame this as "self-defense" to its own people, when it's clearly the opposite.

They know that people will go to extreme lengths to fight when they believe they're fighting defensively, for their own people, sovereignty, safety, etc. To that end, it won't matter if they can realistically defeat NATO- they just want their own people to die trying.

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[-] LaFinlandia@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 year ago

*Suicidal ideation

[-] _s10e@feddit.de 19 points 1 year ago

Is this a declaration of war? Against NATO??

[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Pretty much sounds like a declaration of war against Poland and France, and thus NATO to me.

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[-] ensignrick@startrek.website 15 points 1 year ago

Copium.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Only Russian aggression has made Russia insecure. Because now their borders are disputed.
Russia could have been perfectly secure, by just being a decent neighbor, and not invade other countries.

[-] iforgotmyinstance@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

You have to have leverage to negotiate. Is losing 500k standing troops a leverage position?

[-] Tavonyms@mastodon.social 11 points 1 year ago

@LaFinlandia
Says the most insecure, paranoid country in the world.

[-] B_Larson@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

Maybe just concentrate on not losing the current war lol

[-] 018118055@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 year ago

Россия delenda est

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[-] RedditReject@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Reminds me of this :

https://youtu.be/64DCO2sI7fI?si=R9BGqv1i0SS8PQ90

[-] LaFinlandia@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago

A new movie to watch, thank you!

[-] Historical_General@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

We must fight wokeness on the beaches, the waterfronts and elsewhere. We shall never surrender.

[-] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 5 points 1 year ago

There was some interesting, supposedly intelligence chatter during the Crimea invasion, that russia was willing to go as far as nuke warsaw to hold their claims. There was discussion that in the cold war in the 1950’s, russia was a victor, and responding from a position of strength - but the men ruling today come from a collapsed country and feel the need to do whatever it takes to feel respected.

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[-] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Russia becoming North Korea