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[-] Octagon9561@lemmy.ml 99 points 1 year ago

Anyone who defends Israel at this point is a genocide denier.

[-] sfgifz@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

bUt iF iSRaEl wAntEd a GEnOcIDe wHY WOulD tHE DeATh cOUnT bE So LoW?

/s

What is Israel supposed to do, though? Just let the Hamas attack go unpunished? I get that there's something between doing nothing and what they're doing, but I'm just curious what people think they should have done instead. (Realistically. Obviously leaving is no longer an option for them because all the people who live there.)

[-] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago

What do you mean unpunished? Based on the history of Israel and Gaza, the attack on Israel was the punishment. So beyond the fact dropping thousands of bombs is absolutely unacceptable, any lethal retaliation is not going to help the situation. It's an emotional reaction with devastating consequences.

[-] kureta@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago

This is the same excuse Turkey uses when people bring up Armenian genocide. If we think really hard and cannot find some in-between solution, does that mean the genocide is justified? Is it our job to, or are we even capable of, finding a solution? Is it not the job of politicians or some other professionals?

[-] cobra89@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago

Instead of indiscriminately bombing thousands of people, maybe send in troops to clear out the areas they're concerned about?

I dunno why this is some crazy unthought of idea?

[-] Kben@kbin.social 34 points 1 year ago

The lack of basic humanity from that scumbag downpunxx never ceasses to amaze me.Seeing posts of babies pulled from rubble and that cunt posts pictures of an Israel flag and calling for no ceasefire,and calling anyone who wants an end to the slaughter anti-semitic.

[-] LibsEatPoop@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

death toll has risen to at least 10,022 Palestinians, including 4,104 children, with many victims still trapped beneath the rubble and an Israeli siege drying up access to vital goods like fuel, food and electricity.

“The number [death toll] is expected to go up as at least 2,000 people remain under the rubble. The problem is, with lack of heavy equipment and machinery, the rescue teams on the ground are unable to remove and pull out these bodies from under the rubble,”

The number of those wounded since the October 7 start of the bombardment has risen to 25,408… a result of Israel’s indiscriminate bombardment of civilian homes, hospitals, refugee camps, and schools, said Medical Aid for Palestinians (MAP), a United Kingdom-based organisation

Running low on fuel supplies, 16 of Gaza’s 35 hospitals have been forced to suspend operations as the number of people wounded increases and the United Nations said that more than 1.5 million people, which is more than half of Gaza’s population, have been displaced.

[-] moonlit2107@lemm.ee 24 points 1 year ago

I can't imagine the level of cognitive dissonance someone needs to justify this slaughter. Probably close to popping a blood vessel in their cranium.

[-] chaogomu@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago

Well, you can always count on downpunxx to try and justify the ongoing genocide, or to deny it, or to just have the absolute worst take possible.

[-] stmcld@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I have a theory that downpunxx insane takes are to make other anti palestinian posters seem more moderate, and therefore have what they say more likely to be accepted.

[-] roguetrick@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Particularly in communities he's banned in so only us Kbinauts have to look at it.

[-] off_brand_@beehaw.org 14 points 1 year ago

Hamas is reported to have killed 1400 in it's initial attack. Nearly 3x that number of just children have died in Palestine in this genocide.

[-] OprahsedCreature@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago

To be fair, those Palestinians have been dying very anti-semitically.

[-] Creazle@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Wait, where did the .49% figure come from? I can't see it in the article

Even if you take the remaining 1.5m that have not ~~escaped~~ been displaced from gaza that the article indicates, you're still looking at a discrepancy of a couple of orders of magnitude. Am I missing something?

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 5 points 1 year ago

Maths.

10,000/2,000,000=0.5%

[-] jepolitsch@reddthat.com 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well

the United Nations said that more than 1.5 million people, which is more than half of Gaza’s population, have been displaced.

I guess OP said 10,000 / 3,000,000 = 1/300 = .33% so a bit lower but maybe 3 Million is approximate?

Google says 2.048 population so 1/204.8 which is 0.48%

[-] ira@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

A. The 1.5 million people have not "escaped" or been displaced "from Gaza", they've been forced to move to different places in the Gaza Strip: shelters predominantly. There's no ingress/egress from Gaza. It's basically a giant open-air prison.

Israel erected a giant cage around the land boundary of the whole strip in 1993. There's only 3 exits, all of which are closed: the Rafah crossing into Egypt, the Kerem Shalom crossing at the corner where Israel and Egypt touch, and the Erez crossing into Israel in the north.

Israel enforces a blockade of the shoreline, and a no fly zone. They destroyed Gaza's airport in 2001.

B. "More than half" is doing some pretty heavy lifting. 1.5 million is closer to 75%.

C. 10,022 / 2,048,000 = 0.489355%. Since the post yesterday, Israel has killed another 283 people which brings it up to 10,305 / 2,048,000 = 0.503%.

[-] Hawk2@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Successful Military Operation!

[-] jaybone@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Mission Accomplished

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago

Well, We've only got to wait 199 more months before the Israeli solution is complete.

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