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submitted 10 months ago by L4s@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world

Consumers are paying more than ever for streaming TV each month and analysts say there’s no reason for the companies to stop raising prices::Finding new subscribers in a saturated streaming video market isn't easy. And with legacy media companies desperate to recoup revenue declines in their linear TV businesses, the cost of your monthly plan is likely to keep rising.

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[-] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 159 points 10 months ago

Yarrrr, we be seein' about that...

[-] Kadaj21@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago

Yeah I don’t have the budget to subscribe to multiple streaming services, let alone cable or even one service. Thank god there’s not a lot I’d want to watch…even if sailing high seas.

[-] Sanyanov@lemmy.world 129 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Streaming:

-Charges you unreasonable amount of money

-If you cancel the subscription, you lose it all

-If they change the terms, you may lose access to some of the things in your library

Torrent:

-Costs a grand total of 0$

-Allows you to retain content for eternity

-Requires a 5 second effort to enter the name of a show/film in Sonarr/Radarr

The choice is clear.

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 39 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Torrent:

-Unless your a millennial with really good memory... requires a (usually) a good paid VPN + 3 hours of reading and setup so you dont get nasty letters from your ISP.

-Requires requisite ports and knowledge of how to get the shows to your TV

-ideally requires a standalone PC, which most households no longer have

-Requires knowledge of additional programs that need to be researched and have paid competition

-Requires knowledge of how to find the source material, with huge gatekeeping between source pools

I am probably forgetting other stuff, especially for Gen Z and now the oldest Gen Alpha. But if I as a millennial feel it's a burden to relearn the steps for something I already was doing a decade or so ago. That must be a massive bar for someone who never had their hand in it, so to speak.

I am not saying it's impossible, just I haven't found a straight forward guide from beginning to end, with all the new technology included. And the first time they get a love note from their ISP, they will likely just stop.

Edit: The vastly different responses with different solutions, only proves to me that this is more complex than people let on. You have some people giving services that weren't mentioned in the OP in euros (not that there is anything wrong with Europe, just a different experience. Do EU IPs even send love notes? Then you get a mix of people saying what the best VPN is and other people saying you don't even need a VPN. Just so much different information, is it surprising that people could feel overwhelmed?

[-] Kit 35 points 10 months ago

This is the age of information. It would take a grand total of a few hours for the average person to watch a video to give them all the knowledge they need to avoid the pitfalls you listed.

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 22 points 10 months ago

People are afraid and lazy, it's easy to let fear control your decisions.

I think the age of information has passed. If you try googling/search engine any of this you get scraps of information that don't tie well together.

All I am saying is I could see people throwing up their hands and thinking it's too confusing or dangerous.

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[-] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago
  • VPN is easy especially the good paid ones.
  • You can use VPN and torrent on your mobile and cast it there are apps for it. Or you can use one of the NAS which will do it for you no need to remember anything.
  • You needn't use a PC.
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[-] EpicFailGuy@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago

plus, you fight corporate greed.

Theft removes the original, priacy makes a copy.

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 13 points 10 months ago

Wow theft is free!? Who would have thought!

[-] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 17 points 10 months ago

Piracy is a service and pricing issue. Plenty of people willing to pay, proven by the fact the streaming services were so successful in the first place. They're just not willing to take substantial pay hikes when they're going hungry.

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[-] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 10 points 10 months ago

lol I'm like 20 clicks into Sonarr's website and I still cant find a simple answer: what is Sonarr?

[-] Sanyanov@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago

Some sites just assume you know. In short, thing that automates and streamlines series piracy. Radarr is for films, Lidarr for music, Readarr for book, Whisparr for porn, Prowlarr allows to better manage sources for all of the above.

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[-] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 69 points 10 months ago

No reason to stop raising prices for any business, except for the fact that demand goes down as price goes up. People will cancel or downshift to a cheaper service.

[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 31 points 10 months ago

downshift to a cheaper service.

Yarr matey

[-] baronvonj@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

People will cancel or downshift to a cheaper service.

Streaming platforms make more money from you if you use the cheaper ad-supported plans. The price hikes are to get you off the ad-free plans.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/netflix-disney-now-pushing-subscribers-to-ad-tiers-1235572459/

[-] jetsetdorito@lemm.ee 68 points 10 months ago

I'm begging zoomers to learn how to torrent

[-] Kit 32 points 10 months ago

I'm kind of amazed how my Gen Z buddies are so adamantly against pirating. They think the cops will bust down their door, literally.

[-] banananya@lemm.ee 18 points 10 months ago

As a gen z kiddo, like half of the software on my pc and 90% of my movies are pirated lmao.

[-] Kiosade@lemmy.ca 13 points 10 months ago

I mean i’ve met a lot of millenials like that too. I’m not exactly sure where it stems from

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[-] ABC123itsEASY@lemmy.world 64 points 10 months ago

Yarr harr fiddle dee dee. Fuck Netflix, Hulu and Disney

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[-] ohlaph@lemmy.world 40 points 10 months ago

I am slowly cancelling services with each price increase. I uave cancelled Netflix and HBO. Will continue until morale improves.

[-] tankplanker@lemmy.world 35 points 10 months ago

With prices going up and likely subscribers going way down the next logical move for the Streaming Companies is to start cracking down on Piracy again as they already had a go at password sharing.

Now I am not saying they will be successful in prosecuting those that are careful, just that there will be a few high profile cases against groups of people who aren't using the best hygiene when it comes to piracy. Fear is their best weapon against piracy that they actually want to deploy, just make sure you do enough research to make sure you aren't in that harvest of low hanging fruit.

[-] Tattorack@lemmy.world 34 points 10 months ago

Really? No reason to stop raising prices? My Jolly Roger got something to say about that.

Piracy has never been easier or safer or faster than it is now, and these platforms think driving people away with overpriced subscriptions for shitty content is beneficial for them?

[-] Chobbes@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

Piracy isn’t easier than not bothering to cancel your subscription for most people. I’m sure they’ll lose some people, and especially the demographic here, but I don’t know about the average person.

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[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 32 points 10 months ago

I've no problem with paying for good services, but when I get a better service from a random pirate streaming site than I do from Amazon Prime, why would I continue paying for that?

I'm just sick of things either being exclusive to one service even though they're decades old, or just plain not available.

Oh, and if I'm paying, I don't want ads. Not ever.

[-] SpaceCadet@sopuli.xyz 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I’ve no problem with paying for good services

Exactly. It used to be that netflix was all you needed to get most quality content, and it was a fair deal for customers: you pay a reasonable monthly amount, and you and your family gets convenient access to most streamable movies and TV series.

Now that quality content is spread out and locked out over half a dozen other streaming services, and subscribing to them all is not just a hassle but also incredibly bad value compared to the original offer.

In a healthy competitive environment, you would expect companies to counter reduced value by increasing customer value in other ways or by reducing prices, but instead we got price hikes, lots of low quality filler content, crack downs on password sharing, advertising, various unpopular UI changes and other service reductions decreasing value even further.

To solve this, I think the content producers and streaming services should be split up, because right now they're not really competitors in a true sence but small monopolies who each clutch the keys to their own little franchises. It should be noted for example that music streaming works a lot better: there are various competitors that each hold a viable content library on their own, so you don't need more than one music streaming service. IMO that's because Spotify, Tidal, YT Music, etc. are merely distributors and not the actual producers.

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[-] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 31 points 10 months ago

This is why I Plex/Jellyfin.

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[-] Devouring@lemmy.world 31 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Weird... why is piracy growing then? Every reasonable person should pay $300 to watch the shows they want on the weekend... and then pay a couple more hundreds in the theater.

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[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago

Thanks for the reminder to cancel Disney+ and HBO Max - I almost forgot! ;)

Still have Peacock, because that's comped through my mobile provider.

My wife does Amazon Prime, Netflix, and Hulu. I had Prime but realized I only ever used it for free shipping, which I can get anyway by bundling my orders and setting ship dates.

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[-] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago

Now chart hours of content against cost across the market, and watch it go vertical. Bonus for weighting by critical rating.

Piracy is the only reasonable choice.

[-] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago

Don't forget sharing is caring. 😉

[-] tdawg@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago

People in this comment section really thinking that the average person cares enough to go learn how computers really work in order to get tv for free

[-] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago

You laugh, but that's exactly what happened with Napster and other file sharing software. It starts with the nerds, then someone makes a good easy piece of software for it, then everyone is downloading cars.

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[-] Cyberflunk@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago

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[-] query@lemm.ee 18 points 10 months ago

Streaming services, digital services in general, should be made to compete on having the best platform, not on exclusive content.

It's all the same wires going to the same machines. Internationally, too. I can see maybe allowing for different pricing for countries with very different wage levels, but if it's online, it should be available everywhere.

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[-] BentiGorlich@gehirneimer.de 17 points 10 months ago

I already unsubscribed from prime and if Disney+ is changing to the Netflix way of "no no no you cannot share your account" than that will be gone too. I already thought about unsubscribing from Netflix as well.
But I guess me and my friends are not the norm with a plex server that gets feeded by ~10 persons who like to buy blurays :D

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[-] HurlingDurling@lemm.ee 17 points 10 months ago

Remind me if this is still valid a year from now

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[-] praise_idleness@sh.itjust.works 13 points 10 months ago

We're also getting more than ever from streaming. That is if you like shitty remakes and sadistic defacto porn.

[-] UFODivebomb@programming.dev 12 points 10 months ago

Raise prices. Blame "the liberal agenda". Profit.

[-] Perhapsjustsniffit@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

Ohhhhhhhhhh... it's a pirates life for me. We have never subscribed to any of this shit. Savings have allowed us to eat avacado toast.

[-] Katana314@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

One option that exists for the price-averse is going for the low-subscriber streaming services. This doesn't give you the popular shows everyone else is watching, but it's suitable if your goal is to just entertain yourself with something distracting for a while.

I was briefly subscribed to Shudder, a niche horror flick service that doesn't cost much and has a few decent items on there.
Crunchyroll is relatively cheap for anime, has been buying up other properties to give itself a large library. That said, there are accusations that the money doesn't ever reach the original creators. HiDive is another anime service with some weird options.
There's free services like Pluto TV, usually ad-supported (but hey, a lot of the paid options are giving ads)

Haven't read it, but there's also articles out there about other options, should people decide the major entries are too expensive, and they don't want to go for piracy. Knowing your options is always good.

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[-] bitsplease@lemmy.ml 10 points 10 months ago

Hulu is currently the only streaming service I still pay for, and that's mainly because TV shows are a removed to pirate (disk space and download times being the main annoyance), but it won't take more than one or two more price hikes for the balance to shift so that it's worth the effort to just go full pirate instead of forking out so much cash.

The fact that Disney just fully bought Hulu bodes very poorly too - I'll bet anything that it's going to get folded into Disney+ soon as a "pay an extra 15/month to access Hulu content, but only through your Disney+ membership sort of deal"

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