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[-] RQG@lemmy.world 246 points 6 months ago

Valve good.

But valve company. Company bad.

But valve company do good thing.

But selfish reason.

But good outcome.

But what if no GabeN.

We pray.

[-] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 129 points 6 months ago

Valve is motivated by money. But their strategy is to make excellent products, that put the customers first. A rare sight these days.

[-] julianh@lemm.ee 89 points 6 months ago

I think the the main reason is that they're private with no intention to go public. They're not beholden to random shareholders who know nothing about games and just want infinite growth, their decisions are actually made by people inside the company.

[-] thisisawayoflife@lemmy.world 23 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I played a lot of Sierra games in the 80s. I grew away from computers for a while and at some point in the 90s, Sierra sold out. They were basically drug through the mud, canned all its devs and became a brand rather than a software company. Sierra was also the first publisher of Half Life.

I was reading the history of Sierra there other night on Wikipedia and was sad because so many great games came out of that company and most were memorable. Hard to see that in any gaming these days

Back to my point, I started thinking that Valve saw what happened to Sierra and Newell decided fairly early on that they would be a software company and publisher and not sell out to a third party or take the company into the market. Pure speculation on my part, but they got their start sort of at the end of life of a bunch of 80s software companies. EA is certainly a shadow of what it was but it's still around at least as a brand.

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 62 points 6 months ago

Valve's strategy is to maintain dominance of their software platform, Steam.

It has been pushing Linux as a viable computer platform as a counter to if/when Microsoft wanted to monetize PC gaming in direct competition to Steam, which seems to be a wise decision.

[-] KinglyWeevil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 6 months ago

As we get closer to Microsoft forcefully shoving windows 11 down our throats, more and more I consider switching to Linux as my daily driver for home.

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 3 points 6 months ago

I'm not saying Valve was wrong. However, I can see Valve trying to do the same with Linux.

[-] Sentau@feddit.de 29 points 6 months ago

What will they shove though¿? They don't control linux like how Microsoft controls windows. The only OS they have control over is SteamOS.

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[-] backhdlp 55 points 6 months ago

Valve is one of the few big companies that still knows money comes from users and users come from a good product

[-] 1847953620@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

sometimes users come from other users

[-] backhdlp 5 points 6 months ago

That's the advertisement part that I skipped because it doesn't fit so well, the users need to hear about the good product before becoming a user.

[-] crapwittyname@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 months ago

Also, when a mummy user and a daddy user love each other very much, they go into a special private online matchmaking lobby and make little baby users.

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[-] vivadanang@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago

verily, from their loins they cometh

[-] jelloeater85@lemmy.world 28 points 6 months ago

Gaben is fucking smart and gives a shit.

[-] Landmammals@lemmy.world 24 points 6 months ago

Not just money, they're motivated by a long-term success. A lot of these companies can't see past this quarter's profits and bring a lot of Goodwill trying to make the numbers go up forever.

[-] toastal@lemmy.ml 42 points 6 months ago

If they ever went public & were legally bound to make profit for shareholders, there would be no good feelings anymore.

[-] RQG@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

Going public is usually bad for product quality and consumer oriented business models.

[-] Tak@lemmy.ml 10 points 6 months ago

Private companies still have shareholders who they are bound to make profit for. They're just shareholders not fixated on stock value as it's not publicly traded.

[-] Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.ml 23 points 6 months ago

Private companies aren’t bound to make profit. I purposefully tanked my companies profit to literally 0 during the pandemic so I could keep my employee on at full wage while only open half time. A private company can make profit for shareholders, but it doesn’t have to. It can do whatever the shareholders want it to do, within the boundaries of the law.

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[-] soloner@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago

Hahaha thanks for this. I really find it fascinating how bad CEOs make lemmy think all companies are bad. It makes no sense.

Blame the system maybe, I get that. But good grief we are all trying to make a living. The only way to do it is to do business. Like any system, it will be exploited, but I'm not gonna shit on private companies especially who clearly have a vision and don't need investor snobs to drive them to commit evil.

[-] RQG@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago

I meant it the other way around. No matter how benevolent a dictatorship is, eventually the dictator will change and you better hope there will be another benevolent one.

I personally don't think the problem is doing business. I think the problem is businesses not being democratic.

[-] mojo@lemm.ee 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It's not their own opinion, they're just repeating what they learned online. There's multiple valve devs being "exploited" for $250k a year, it's really tragic. They even exploit their worker by having college classes on the top of their building for their employees.

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[-] Sloogs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 6 months ago
[-] rwhitisissle@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 months ago

Valve gud. EA bad. Why Valve gud? Because me am told Valve gud. Why EA bad? Because me an told EA bad. Fact that each is purely motivated by profit and that my sentiment is almost entirely a byproduct of effective Valve PR coupled with it being the defacto gaming marketplace for 20 years and that the only value I have to it is as a data point in a spreadsheet is lost on me.

[-] BestBouclettes@jlai.lu 149 points 6 months ago

The day Gaben resigns from Valve will be a terrible day. I hope he has his succession in order.

[-] KinglyWeevil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 6 months ago

"Please pay this monthly access fee to maintain access to your account."

[-] demonsword@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

“Please pay this monthly access fee to maintain access to your account.”

that's the day you download all your game catalog to disk and cancel your account, of course

[-] iso@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 6 months ago

Or hope that GoG finally created their Linux client, although it has only be requested by a quiet minority of literally every single suggestion on their community wishlist.

For the love of the gods CDPR, please, finally realize that Linux users are you main customer base.

[-] EccTM@lemmy.ml 41 points 6 months ago

The "bluescreen" was actually a bunch of hints at Portal 2's announcement at E3 later that year IIRC, but whatever.

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[-] ElectroLisa 32 points 6 months ago

"This isn't working" SteamVR on Linux after another "bugfix"

[-] eclipse@sh.itjust.works 14 points 6 months ago

Seriously though. After years SteamVR still doesn't work with their own headset.

[-] ElectroLisa 8 points 6 months ago

Even plural, this applies to Vive and Vive Pro

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[-] olafurp@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

Still relevant over a decade later

[-] onlinepersona@programming.dev 4 points 6 months ago

And yet there are linux users who know about it and still buy stuff with NVIDIA in it.

What saddens me is that there are even linux hardware vendors that actively sell stuff with NVIDIA in it.

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