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“No one is looking at us or the extent of this disaster or the crimes that we are experiencing in Gaza,” he said. Still holding his microphone, he slid off his flak jacket marked with the word PRESS and unstrapped his helmet.

“These protection jackets and helmets don't protect us,” he said, flinging the equipment to the ground. “Nothing protects journalists. ... We lose our lives for no reason.”

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[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 166 points 1 year ago

This is heartbreaking, I don’t know what else to say. The justification that these casualties are acceptable because “Hamas is there too” is just nonsense. If that’s the case why won’t Israel let civilians cross the border into Israel to prevent their murder?

[-] SayJess 79 points 1 year ago

That would humanize those whom they oppress.

[-] ivanafterall@kbin.social 59 points 1 year ago

I doubt Hamas was at this reporter's house, which was singled out by Israel for an airstrike, which they then pretended to know nothing about.

[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

You’re probably right, I’m just trying to get ahead of their typical excuse for collateral damage

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 year ago

It's not even collateral damage is it? It's the damage they intend to inflict, killing journalists who dare to show the world what Israel is doing.

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Not just journalists, kill the journalist AND his entire family by waiting until he gets home and then bombing his house.

Hamas look like angels compared to israel

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[-] V17@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago

If that’s the case why won’t Israel let civilians cross the border into Israel to prevent their murder?

Whether you agree with Israeli attacks or not, obviously the answer to this is because it's impossible to filter out Hamas terrorists, which is the main thing they're trying to prevent.

[-] TinyPizza@kbin.social 32 points 1 year ago

Your right, best to kill them all then. What do you agree with btw?

He agrees with the occupiers if his history serves as enough evidence

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[-] cogman@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

So, you believe Israel can identify a Hamas terrorist remotely to bomb them, but can't identify Hamas terrorists when they are at the border in person?

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[-] mlg@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

My dude has never seen a customs office or checkpoint in his life

No its obviously because Israel doesn't care about Palestinians lol. They wouldn't have literally any of these issues if they hadn't been doing like 80 years worth of state sponsored occupation and murder.

You really think the people in Gaza chose to willingly leave their former homes and land to move into a military enclave?

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[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Either they’re armed and easy to identify or they’re not at which point there’s one less person to worry about shooting Israeli soldiers while their tunnel network is dismantled. I don’t see the problem.

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[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Why does Israel not let people leave and use its famed intelligence services to identify who the Hamas fighters are? It is looking like the Israeli government simply prefers collective punishment or even genocide.

[-] filister@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

They even deported some stranded Palestinian workers to Gaza. Imagine that!

[-] emax_gomax@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

I wanna preface this with "Israel is clearly in the wrong for these attacks and civilians casualties are not an acceptable consequence of this conflict" but as others have already mentions: Israel not taking in Palestinians is very clearly because you can't reliably filter out hamas from Palestinian civilians. That doesn't make what their doing OK, it's just the very obvious reason for them not doing what you're suggesting. It doesn't help that these continues attacks probably makes the civilians population more likely to want to retaliate against the government. "You make the monsters you want to fight" and a that.

[-] TinyPizza@kbin.social 22 points 1 year ago

The denial of basic necessities for human survival and the driving of civilians southward is a coordinated push to expel the populous from the Gaza Strip. They've attempted back channel deals to scrub Egypt's debt for them to take in the civilians. Their "plan" to ship the expelled around the world has been leaked. People understand this, and thus, the only logical solution is for Israel to take care of these people whose lives they are shattering. They can't leave their land or Israeli land or they won't get it back. Whether it's worth dying over is largely out of the Palestinians in Gaza hands for the moment.

This can't be made someone else's problem, because that's exactly what Israel wants and that should make their motivations very clear.

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[-] FoundTheVegan@kbin.social 68 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's easy to take an enlightened centerist approach here saying things like "both sides do awful things" and "everyone should stop". And while to a point that this is true, there has a history of revenge repesials going back devades. But that really ignores the vast power imblance between Israel and the strip.

From basic utilities to free movement on roads to kicking Palestinians out of their homes in favor of Israeli settlers. It's a small easy thing to relax in your chair and say everyone is wrong, but this conflict can end when Isreal stops their oppression. Not providing clean water and bombing medical infrastructure is genocide all by itself. Gaza is an open air prison where movement is restricted. It's high minded arrogant nonsense to say Gaza should focus on their own country when Isreal is literally bombing their water wells.

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[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago

Whoa israel just directly bombed his house with his whole family inside because he was press. What the fuck.

israel is saying they will kill you AND your entire family of you report on their war crimes.

[-] ShroOmeric@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago

There is a word for what Israel is doing: Holocaust.

[-] Resol@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago

So now Israel targets Hamas AND the press? The latter just feels so wrong.

This comment is now a downvote farm.

[-] Zippit@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

No they were targeting them specifically from the beginning, not just now.

At least 31 Journalists have been killed and we're not even a month in.

Here's the wiki site that keeps count: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_the_2023_Israel%E2%80%93Hamas_war

[-] TinyPizza@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

Here are current year and prior maps to 92' that you can tweak from the Committee to Protect Journalists. It really helps to change search parameters like causation, year, region etc, to get a very full view of how absolutely abnormal the number of journalist deaths are.

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[-] Franzia 26 points 1 year ago

Israel has a storied history now of killing journalists, here is the most famous example:

https://www.vox.com/2022/5/11/23067365/shireen-abu-akleh-palestinian-journalist-killed-israel

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