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"Neither Angel nor Martin were charged criminally in the matter, Sacramento District Attorney’s Office spokeswoman Shelly Orio said."
I hate the typical lack of consequences for police doing criminal things.
What was the evidence against them? I'm curious due to:
“She had been trying to get back to her family for like two years,” Angel said. “...the doctor said she was fine to travel
“Rosalie’s attorney realized after that our intentions were pure of heart and the county is the one who made a mistake, not us,” Angel said.
While things could still be super-scammy and I by no means lean away from that, it would be really sad if the family was grifting and a good person (who happens to be a cop) got the stick due to media and echos (which does exist IMO just in a MUCH smaller way than on other sides).
I really wish the article gave more details on the specific arguments so readers could make a more informed determination.
This is uncommonly evil.
Not “I shot somebody when things got tough.”
Oh no, it’s “I’ll clean this elderly woman out by having her move in with me, taking trips to lawyers to draft a will, have banks drill the locks of her safety deposit box, finding doctors to declare her well, and then shipping her off to another country.”
This was a long con and absolutely despicable.
I think both of the fired cops have come here and downvoted your comment, and the post.
We've moved past downvoting meaning not contributing the discussion and into the realm of dislike. Can't be popular all of the time I guess
Eh, downvoting has rarely ever been used as originally intended.
My comment was more about who would downvote this post, or your comment, and all I could think of was cops, and their bootlickers.
Jesus Christ. In less than a month they got power of attorney, cleaned out her bank account and safe deposit box(es), stripped and sold her house, and shipped her off to the Philippines. Yet people claim that Law Enforcement is lazy and inefficient!
wut.
this post was submitted on 31 Oct 2023
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