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[-] Silverseren@kbin.social 108 points 1 year ago

Like, I get wanting to defend the rights of women under oppressive religions and governments, but how exactly does controlling what women are allowed to wear accomplish that?

[-] AngrilyEatingMuffins@kbin.social 78 points 1 year ago

It’s because this has nothing to do with that. It’s virtue signaling that they don’t like Muslims, nothing less and nothing more.

[-] ikiru@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 year ago

Being Islamophobic is a Virtue now?

[-] ISOmorph@feddit.de 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes. Yes it is. Welcome to 2023.

[-] ikiru@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago

2023 sucks.

[-] OhNoMoreLemmy@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago

It's a lot like the 70s but we have WiFi.

[-] Rozauhtuno 25 points 1 year ago

It is for conservatives.

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[-] BlackNo1@lemmy.world 83 points 1 year ago

im not the biggest fan of the muslim faith but this is stupid

[-] anlumo@feddit.de 64 points 1 year ago

Austria also has a law like that, and it has been a complete shitshow. There have been fines for someone wearing a scarf while riding a bike and for someone at work dressed up in a body suit in front of the shop for advertisement reasons (like a mascot).

When the law went into effect, the newspapers reported that there were about ten muslim women currently wearing coverings in the whole country.

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

After years of covid where everyone would supposedly die in terror attacks if the face coverings happened I'm surprised this fear mongering still manages to pass.

Full face covering burqas are not really an Islamic thing. The headscarves are. The burqas are a cultural thing for some. And usually almost nobody actually wears them. But you can get brownie points with the racists for passing these laws and show that your country is well on the way to moral decline.

[-] morrowind@lemmy.ml 52 points 1 year ago

Gotta make sure you don't compromise that facial recognition

[-] 342345@feddit.de 37 points 1 year ago

YES!

It's important how much clothing you wear. Not too much and not too little. It MUST BE the RIGHT amount.

Humans.

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[-] nikscha@feddit.de 31 points 1 year ago

I hate this. What if I wanna cover my face to evade facial detection? That's illegal now?

[-] crispy_kilt@feddit.de 12 points 1 year ago

Nope, wear a surgical mask.

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[-] Lols@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

no dont worry, its only the brown people face coverings that are bad

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[-] bitwolf@lemmy.one 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What if I'm cold or want to go skiing? I could wrap a scarf over my face which I have done. Is that not illegal because it's not the same garment?

What about COVID? Wouldn't masks conflict with that also? Of all countries I'd never imagine one with a colder climate to make such a law.

[-] crispy_kilt@feddit.de 14 points 1 year ago

There are exceptions for sport and health&safety. You can do all of these things.

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[-] HubertManne@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago

These do seem inconsistant. What about 95 masks? that covers the face and nose.

[-] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

But not the eyes. Besides it's easy to include an exception for legitimate medical purposes - even considering the law was written by a bunch of quasi-fascists I would be surprised if that's not covered in the law, especially since the article mentions there are exceptions.

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[-] electrogamerman@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

I wonder if all the Muslims here saying "women should be dressing whatever they want", also protest the same in muslims countries where women are killed for not covering their hair.

[-] Flyswat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 year ago

Are you living under a rock? Haven't you seen the men protesting in Iran??

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[-] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago

I can't even take half of you seriously. Every religion is a cult, but this one is an extremely misogynistic cult and you don't get anything for being their unpaid defenders online beyond the knowledge that you protected extreme womanizers.

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[-] UndercoverUlrikHD@programming.dev 19 points 1 year ago

I can understand the reasoning for government officials and kids at school, but what are they smoking to straight up ban it in their country?

[-] electrogamerman@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

The same thing islamist countries are smoking when they kill women not covering their head, probably.

[-] Lols@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago

i am glad that we are fighting these terrible regimes that enforce what women can and cannot wear by letting the regime enforce what women can and cannot wear

high five gang

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[-] PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 year ago
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[-] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

wear a face mask all the time then... cough cough COVID

Yea how can you ban face coverings in the covid times lol

[-] sergih@feddit.de 16 points 1 year ago

A country telling women what to wear will be on the same page in my book as the country telling women what not to wear.

[-] Turun@feddit.de 13 points 1 year ago

Winter is gonna be fun, lol. Austria already implemented and rolled back a similar ban.

The article says there are exceptions, but doesn't provide any useful information unfortunately.

[-] SlikPikker@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 year ago

Don't worry. Its only for brown people.

[-] Tvkan@feddit.de 12 points 1 year ago

Winter is gonna be fun, lol.

They'll have a list of exceptions that basically means anyone but muslims.

Austria already implemented and rolled back a similar ban.

It's still in force.

[-] bigFab@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

What's the official reason for that law?

[-] crispy_kilt@feddit.de 63 points 1 year ago

The official reason is "in our culture we show each other our faces"

The real reason is "I'm racist and I hate muslims"

Source: am swiss. (I voted against this law.)

[-] rafa@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Are you Muslim or just dense?

[-] ours@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

It's called freedom. I don't like the custom and I'm not religious but forbidding others from practicing theirs isn't OK.

This is the work of right-wing conservatives making empty gestures to "protect traditional Christian families" instead of doing something useful. But fearmongering gets them easy votes and with an aging population, even easier to scare old grandma and grandpa with "Muslim invaders".

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[-] crispy_kilt@feddit.de 17 points 1 year ago

My density is approximately 0.9 g/mL

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[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 11 points 1 year ago

I'd rather see swiss banks having to spill the beans about their many criminal enterprises and criminal customers. Tax evasion is a crime, for those unaware

[-] Send_me_nude_girls@feddit.de 11 points 1 year ago

If female sexual agency is somehow shameful, while male sexual agency isn't, then this needs to be argued for with good reasons.

I myself reject any form of double standards.

[-] jmsy@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

No one should be told what to wear. Besides, I like women in burqas because I like to know which ones are property of another man.

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