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[-] bullsworth@pawb.social 36 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

We almost certainly have 1,000 Einsteins and 1,000 Mozarts alive today. A relevant quote from 1979:

"I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein’s brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops."

-Stephen Jay Gould

[-] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 38 points 2 days ago

We already have a 1000 mozarts but half of them are starving right now and then out of the other half 80% couldnt pursue their dreams

[-] skibidi@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein’s brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.

- Steven Jay Gould

[-] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 2 points 2 days ago

Look some the poors are going to die however that is just the price we all have to pay to make sure the rest of the Epstein Class continues to hoard wealth.

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

And Bezos is pushing for genAI, so they will be pushed out by genAI slop.

[-] marighost@piefed.social 259 points 3 days ago

Imagine how many more Mozarts and Einsteins we could have if we removed barriers like poverty and hunger and allowed everyone to have a fair shot at life.

[-] 9point6@lemmy.world 66 points 3 days ago

Exactly this

We have so much untapped potential in the world because of the system he is a product of. The vast majority of people have to spend most of their time and effort on general survival. There's diminishing amounts of time and effort that average Joe can actually spend on intellectual and artistic pursuits orthogonal to their source of income. Hell, just fucking having hobbies is becoming a bit of a privileged position in 2026, which is frankly a desolate place we've managed to take civilisation.

[-] Mirshe@lemmy.world 34 points 3 days ago

See, that's the thing these guys don't want to understand. There could be a thousand generational talents like that "right fucking now*, who have these enormous gifts and won't ever be able to realize them because they gotta go to their third job so they don't fall behind on rent AGAIN.

Your Uber driver might be a virtuosic violin player who's never realized it because he's never had the opportunity to try. The cashier at Taco Bell might be an amazing painter, who can't afford to paint because every last cent has to go to one bill or another. That kid in Ghana you're watching on the TV charity commercial might be the next talent in rocketry or physics or poetry or any of a dozen other fields if they had a shot.

[-] BlastboomStrice@mander.xyz 5 points 2 days ago

And if we cooperated instead of antagonizing each other (which happens under this capitalist system) we could probably collectively achieve even more than 1000 "mozarts" could do

[-] EggInDisguise 16 points 3 days ago

I know a guy who draws absolutely beautiful sketches, and having seen some of the paintings he "dabble with", I'm positive he could make some amazing things.

Unfortunately, all he gets to do is small sketches in his down time, because he works two jobs and has 2 kids.

Imagine how many people have an ideas for something that would make tons of people's lives better, but they can't work on it because they have to go to work and all their energy is spent just trying not to become a statistic...

[-] LucidNightmare@anarchist.nexus 12 points 3 days ago

It’s so nice to see other people with this sentiment. Even at a young age I always thought it was a little silly for only rich people to have “the best” education when there are people out there who can’t follow their passions or dreams because of various things.

So nice to see, thank you for pointing it out!

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[-] boaratio@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago

Did you guys know it's possible to be rich and also just shut the fuck up?

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[-] vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com 108 points 3 days ago

We very literally already have 1000 Motzarts and 1000 Einsteins. They are poor and working in your wearhouses and have no means or free time to pursue the fields they would accel in.

Pay your taxes Jeff.

[-] terranoid@lemmy.cafe 42 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

They literally could not give a fuck if there's a Mozart out there.

This is the same shit that happened with Nazis. They decided that classical art is the only "real" art and anything that was modern at the time was "degenerate art".

https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-24819441

They want people that worship the traditional art that fuels nationalism, like Greek statues that are bleached white. They like the idea of classical art, that a perfect homogeneous society existed before them that they can re-achieve.

They hate all varieties of modern art because it's either hard to understand, or it might even conflict with their nationalism.

They want to dip their toes into what they think art should be, not embrace what it is.

Most billionaires are the scums of the world, hording the wealth and spending it on stupid stuff while his employees who do the actual work get little to no credit and are payed much less.

[-] Initech_vs_Initrode@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago

I've heard both Melon Husk and Lil' Jeffy Kisses repeat this sentiment. Where do they even get their figure? Something like 120 billion humans have existed, ever, and there has been only one Einstein and one Mozart. 1/120B * 1T = 8.5.

Factor in the widespread nutritional and medical resource shortages that would come along with one trillion humans, and I'm confident that number would drop to zero.

It seems to be that we'd be better off ensuring the future of humanity and focusing on science. Surely it would be quicker to experiment with genetics to grow an Einstein than it would be to implement a trillion-human breeding lottery hoping to find one.

[-] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 123 points 3 days ago

We probably already have thousands of them out there but they never recieved the education they would have needed to unlock their potential and or are too busy surviving in abject poverty to contribute to the advancement of humanity.

Because shitheads like him hoard all the money and do everything they can so others around them are stuck in the poverty trap so they can use them as cheap, desperate and exploitable labor.

[-] Almacca@aussie.zone 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The only reason ghouls like Bezos want a bigger population is because they want more people to exploit, especially artists and scientists.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 30 points 3 days ago

How many Mozarts and Einsteins are pissing in bottles in your warehouses, Jeff?

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

To put it another way: we don't need a trillion people to find more Master Artists and Master Scientists, we need more Equality of Opportunity and a system that rewards Art and Science, both the very opposite what has made this "gentleman" as rich as he is, of what he promotes with his own words and using the parts of Press he bought and what he tells the politicians he has in this pocked to do.

He is literally one of the biggest individual forces pushing away from the very outcome he claims to want.

The hypocrisy of this asshole and others like him is mind-boggling.

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[-] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 50 points 3 days ago

lol, literally the quote by Stephen Jay Gould.

I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein’s brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Stephen_Jay_Gould#Quotes

[-] tigermountain@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Stories like these from people like these are always delivered through the lens of what's best for business. This is propaganda.

[-] Napster153@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Also lack of genuine self-awareness on their own true intentions. To them, being greedy is so ingrained they can't see it as a hazard to themselves until its too late.

[-] whereitsat@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 days ago

modern einstein is trying to develop new ways to keep people hooked on a social media scroll. modern mozart is producing kpop or playing jazz/fusion in some club where they make $40 a night and then dying broke (like allan holdsworth).

but it's true that most great brains probably never develop properly because the system tries its hardest to keep them stupid and in poverty.

the modern media landscape is all nepo babies and what does it get you? it gets you fuck all; everything is pathetic from top to bottom in every single artform but we're acting like shit is normal.

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[-] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 days ago

Human beings can only live abput two years at most in micro gravity. On return after said two years they are effectively paralyzed and have to endure months of physiotherapy just to be able to walk again.

We will never "live" in space or the "solar system", the only place we can live is this planet and anybody telling you otherwise is lying to you.

They do want you in micro gravity though. Besos has on his blue origin website that they plan on having heavy industry in orbit and basically the prols will work in orbit so the planet can remain clean for the rich.

[-] Digit@lemmy.today 2 points 2 days ago

Spin it! Bebe. ;)

[To make a cheap adequate equivalent centripital force (centrifugal force?... whatever) simulating gravity]

There be ways.

Bezos defo is lying to us though. ... bwahahahaha, "rockets" XD Yuh, cos that's how one travels through space. XD

[-] isleepinahammock 43 points 3 days ago

We have a thousand Mozarts and a thousand Einsteins. Most of them are stuck working at an Amazon warehouse.

[-] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Just look at technical death metal and progressive metal. Most of the musicians are holding down day jobs programming. Mike Lerner is a really sad case, since he is one of the greatest metal guitarists. Works as the worlds most generic programmer in silicon valley.

Hell, even jazz and classical. I just don't know what their fucking day jobs are.

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[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 44 points 3 days ago

... and 990 billion cheap, exploitable slaves, of course.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 5 points 2 days ago

That unfortunate reality that their enormous wealth has been mostly down to population growth and psychopathic greed, and not because they were born with magical business brains.

[-] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Humans would find a way to destroy space through greed and corruption.

[-] Unpigged@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 days ago

He says '1000 Einsteins', but surely thinks '1000 Bezoses' because of course he thinks he's a genius, and because there'll be more new faces in the billionaire paedophilic orgies.

[-] Initech_vs_Initrode@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

I believe he's said that he doesn't listen to music, which makes it even funnier to me. A real, "hello fellow humans" moment from Robo Chromedome.

[-] Leviathan@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

That's interesting. I think we should have 0 'Jeff Bezos'es in the solar system.

[-] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 32 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I believe the propaganda here is idea that some people are born special, brighter than every one else.

The message here is not that Bezos wants a trillion humans, the message is that the majority of people are not special and will never archive greatness (like him)

Rich people love to think they belong to this special group but it’s not real, all humans have the capacity to archive greatness if only given the resources to not only survive but thrive.

If everyone had acces to free and quality education, healthcare and food we could have more than a thousand Einsteins and Mozarts right now.

Once everyone is able to archive greatness, it becomes the norm, therefore the rich no longer able to justify their wealth by claiming to be geniuses. Helping the poor thrive and become not poor is a direct threat to their ego and status.

Edit: Wholesome to realise i am the fourth person to comment this. Positivity woke!

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[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

So tired of watching these dipshit's fortunes detach them from reality.

The narcissism is so off the charts that the idea of death must be utterly terrifying to them. You know this chode is going to put himself on ice at the end in the hopes he can get a new body in the future without recognizing that the future is going to be a dystopian shithole or arid wasteland.

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[-] echodot@feddit.uk 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Assuming some aliens appeared out a thin air and gifted us fusion powered spacecraft and space elevator technology it would still take centuries to get to trillions of humans. These people really do talk utter shit.

[-] ikidd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I'm not sure that we ever would. Every country that gets healthcare and a standard of living above abject poverty drops their birthrates. I would hope with fusion power, there wouldn't be a person on (or off) the planet going hungry.

But then again, Jeff Bezos exists, so we'll still end up with 99% of the wealth in the hands of 1%.

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[-] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago

$0.02: above average intelligence is abundant. The opportunities and support that enable those people to achieve greatness (read: privilege), are not. This situation will only get worse with the like of Bezos squeezing the people that work for them. This "1000 Mozarts" line only serves to illustrate how intellectually bankrupt this person is.

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[-] Triumph@fedia.io 25 points 3 days ago

And we'd have more Mozarts and Einsteins right now if people were free from the burden of worry about survival.

[-] Digit@lemmy.today 3 points 2 days ago

With proper resource management (up to and beyond availing and provisioning all emancipatory technologies), such that we could build vast multi-layered forest arcologyscapes, we could increase the carrying capacity of earth, for humans, to over 300 trillion, living in vast spacious lush garden abundance. Not saying that we should. Just that we could. Such is our headroom.

But we don't get to have nice things, because of the likes of Bezos.

Industrialists, monopolists, "globalists" [oh they love that one, a flowery euphemism for more like "megalomaniacs"?], who eliminate any competition, by whatever means necessary to attain and maintain an imbalance of power.

A few years back I recall some journalists unearthing a study that showed how Wall St (and other stock exchange centers), were not only not "making" money/wealth, but extracting it from the economy, and further, for every dollar of wealth they extracted from the economy, they destroy another 7 dollars of wealth. ... Takes a moment for the magnitude of that to sink in.

So then we get these fauxlanthropists, swanning around, like Rockerfeller, giving a dime to someone on camera, in a community from whom he'd stolen millions, to whitewash their image.

... by whatever means necessary... a lot of that's just by the patents system and the legal system. How many patents get secreted a year? How many merely get sat on? How much lawfare's done to scare off inventors of technologies that would out-compete and obsolete enshitified rent-extraction maximisation technologies? How much else? A spat of inventors disappeared or died in suspicious circumstances recently. How far would you go to protect a multi trillion industry? As far as to actively prevent a better world without resource wars or poverty from ever happening? How far would a psychopath who's drawn to power go, with exacerbating tragedies of the commons for their own selfish short-sighted power-grab and resource gain? There's nothing stopping them...

We can all be polymaths in the making,

not slaves in training, lapping up the platitudes that placate us, from those who enslave us.

(PS, I've been boycotting Amazon since 2004, waiting for everybody else to see it. Maybe now with their participation in vast rampant destruction of rare books to feed their AI for cheap, to become the info monopoly, able to shape our agnosis, more people will see it and stop falling for it, in this small window we have, before their total information management becomes complete and we become a cosmic dystopian tragedy, with our minds entirely curated by the everpresent cold-reading psychopathic ai hypnotist, not just coercively hoodwinking us to carrying it in our pocket, but skynet, will be everywhere, especially in our mind. Except it wont be our mind any more. It will be the corporation's. Maximum capitalisation, reducing people to the numbers. ... Bezos, a trillion humans? Sure. But we are not the same.)

[-] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 18 points 3 days ago

A 1000 Hitlers, a 1000 Epsteins, a 1000 Bezos

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