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submitted 11 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

A Chinese fighter jet came within 10 feet of a US Air Force B-52 bomber flying over the South China Sea on Tuesday, according to the US military.

The Chinese pilot “flew in an unsafe and unprofessional manner, demonstrated poor airmanship by closing with uncontrolled excessive speed, flying below, in front of, and within 10 feet of the B-52, putting both aircraft in danger of collision,” US Indo-Pacific Command said in a Thursday statement. “We are concerned this pilot was unaware of how close he came to causing a collision.”

News of the latest Chinese intercept comes as President Joe Biden is expected to speak with Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi when he visits the White House on Friday, CNN reported on Thursday. It is not clear whether the meeting will be a formal discussion or a more informal meet and greet. Wang is also expected to meet with Secretary of State Antony Blinken on Thursday and national security adviser Jake Sullivan on Friday.

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[-] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 62 points 11 months ago

The Chinese military is severely lacking in accountability and professionalism. The pilots think this kind of flying projects skill, when really it shows their incompetence.

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[-] Coreidan@lemmy.world 36 points 11 months ago

And? They’ve been doing this shit for 20+ years and nothing ever comes of it.

[-] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 31 points 11 months ago

Exactly. The Chinese pilot who collided with the Navy EP-3 was honored. He was pretty dead at the time but none the less. The Chinese want their pilots to fly like this.

[-] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

Fearmongering because we're in a second cold war with China. That's what this is.

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[-] rivermonster@sh.itjust.works 34 points 11 months ago

I dread how badly China is craving FAFO. It's going to be such an unnecessary loss of life, and China will end up in ruins--not that it's doing well now.

[-] Hardeehar@lemm.ee 11 points 11 months ago
[-] Zron@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago
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[-] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago

He was just communicating

Charlie: Well, if you were directly above him, how could you see him? Maverick: Because I was inverted. Iceman: [coughs] Bullshit. Goose: No, he was, man. It was a really great move. He was inverted. Charlie: You were in a 4G inverted dive with a MiG-28? Maverick: Yes, ma'am. Charlie: At what range? Maverick: About two meters? Goose: Well, it's actually about one and a half, I think. It was one and a half. I've got a great Polaroid of it, and he's right there, must be one and a half. Maverick: Was a nice picture. Goose: Thanks. Charlie: Eh, Lieutenant, what were you doing there? Goose: Communicating. Maverick: Communicating. Keeping up foreign relations. I was, you know, giving him the bird. Goose: You know, the finger

[-] Dkarma@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago

how dare China fly a plane in checks notes the South China sea

[-] theyoyomaster@lemmy.world 128 points 11 months ago

You mean in international airspace over international waters?

[-] ours@lemmy.world 69 points 11 months ago

Ah but it has "China" in its name so it should all belong to China! Taps forehead

Checks map

Oof, Taiwan, the Philippines, and parts of Japan amongst others are not going to be happy to learn this.

[-] frunch@lemmy.world 28 points 11 months ago

But did you checks notes???!?

[-] ricdeh@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

Right, the Chinese are forbidden to fly planes there but Americans may of course do so, great logic my friend /s

[-] theyoyomaster@lemmy.world 44 points 11 months ago

The Chinese are absolutely allowed to fly planes there. What is against international law is unsafe intercepts and flying within 10 feet of another aircraft.

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[-] Just_Pizza_Crust@lemmy.world 59 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

For some context, the South China Sea is a giant sea between China, Philippines, Malaysia, Indonesia, Vietnam, and a few others. Currently, China is pushing for what it calls the "Nine-Dash Line" policy which would in effect forcibly blockade all other ASEAN nations from trading.

Imagine if Italy claimed the entire Mediterranean Sea including the coastline of other nations, then prevented others from trading under the threat of military invasion. That's basically what China is trying to do here.

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[-] blackbelt352@lemmy.world 51 points 11 months ago

There's flying, and the there's flying like a moron. No matter where you are, in your own air space or someone else's, flying like a moron is a terrible idea.

[-] 1024_Kibibytes@lemm.ee 26 points 11 months ago

Traveling within 10 feet of another vehicle where the speeds are measured as a percentage of the speed of sound (Mach) is definitely flying like a moron.

[-] theyoyomaster@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Not always, I fly 10 feet away from another plane all the time. The difference is we planned it from the beginning and are both actively participating.

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[-] nicetriangle@kbin.social 47 points 11 months ago

This happened in international airspace. Doesn't matter what the body of water is called. The entirety of the gulf of Mexico doesn't belong to Mexico either. Nor does the Indian ocean belong to India.

Also the China Sea was originally named by the Portuguese.

[-] hddsx@lemmy.ca 26 points 11 months ago

No, no, his logic is sound. The Atlantic Ocean will hereby be renamed the East American Ocean, and the Pacific Ocean will hereby be renamed the West American Ocean. The South China Sea will hereby be renamed the West West American Ocean. The Indian Ocean will hereby be renamed the South West American Ocean.

Checkmate, China

[-] nicetriangle@kbin.social 9 points 11 months ago
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[-] mrbubblesort@kbin.social 23 points 11 months ago

By that logic the Atlantic Ocean belongs to Atlanta

[-] dhork@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

And the Pacific Ocean belongs to the PAC-12 conference

[-] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

Soon it'll be reorganized and become The Bigten Ocean.

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[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 21 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

You checking your China 'this is totally all mine' new map in your notes? The 9 dash line is hand drawn and totally arbitrary, and is basically saying 'this is mine now.'

[-] SheeEttin@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago

Also known as the Vietnamese East Sea, Malaysian Champa Sea, Indonesian North Natuna Sea, and Philippines Luzon Sea.

[-] WarlockLawyer@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

As long as they don't go anywhere in the Indian Ocean.

[-] DoomBot5@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago

Shouldn't all bombers be flying with fighter escorts? How did a Chinese fighter plane manage to get so close to it?

[-] SheeEttin@lemmy.world 35 points 11 months ago

What difference would that make? They're not going to shoot it down.

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[-] theyoyomaster@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago

There are only fighter escorts if there is a specific threat with hostile intent that requires them. Most non-fighter Air Force aircraft don’t fly with escorts routinely.

[-] nezbyte@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago

There were fighter pilots from 3 nations escorting a B52 on Sunday. The articles I can find for the Tuesday flight do not mention any fighter escorts.

https://www.flyingmag.com/us-japan-south-korea-conduct-trilateral-b-52-escort-exercise/

[-] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

Most likely the bomber was flying there to establish our right to do. By not being a fighter it helps avoid an engagement. I have no specific knowledge of this incident, but in general we don't want an engagement as that can escalate quicky. We just want to say that we don't recognize the borders they claim.

[-] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

No, we don't really do that any more. It's not really necessary.

We put the fighters where they need to be when they need to be there. This bomber is just flying its patrol route, they don't need to be protected along their path to the target, they don't need to be anywhere near their targets, they're loaded with cruise missiles and they strike from dozens or hundreds of miles away.

[-] Hobbes@startrek.website 9 points 11 months ago

How many houses for poor people could that interaction have paid for?

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

China can just forcibly move people whenever they want so this isn't really a concern for them.

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