I would love to watch AOC beat up JD Vance.
I mean hell, I'd watch her beat anybody up. All the sweeter if it's one of those goons.
It'll be Tucker Carlson vs. Gavin Newsom, Tucker will pretend to take a hardline stance against Israel and for universal healthcare, and Newsom will take a "moderate" position on both (which will be the same as Tucker's actual position, but his voters won't know that), then all the liberals will blame the left when Tucker wins. I'm a time traveler folks, I came back to make sure this doesn't happen. Heed my warning!

Nobody is talking about the secret C option where a war "breaks out" in 2027, martial law is enacted, and elections are suspended.
I think that's what most people assume he's going to try to pull.
You've heard Escape From Tarkov, now get ready for Escape From America.
Don't forget to loot a GPU or two on the way out.
thats what the iran war is for, serves a multipurpose role, to distract from EPSTEIN files, to use as excuse to suspend election, also distract from domestic problems like the over-reporting on ICE activites, All the gop trying to intergrate palantir/axon/flock cameras.
also include all the economic and health disease related problems.
Not terminally online leftists and tankies once again pissing away any chance of success because the progressive DSA candidate who's offering universal healthcare, free college, better education, public transportation, bodily autonomy, a better democracy and ending the wars apparently doesn't actually fit their world view.
What you need to understand, according to tankies, is: bOtH sIdEs SaMe.
Yeah, I mean this feels exactly the same as when Biden was president. Right? Right?
If they can't get the zombie of Karl Marx risen from the grave to run, they would rather be led by right wing christian nationalist pedophiles.

You know the person who made this visual psychosis actually believed it, but fuck if it isn't the funniest thing I've seen all day.
Marx would despise tankies. None of them understand his work
Pfff, Marx wouldn't be marxist enough for them.
I would probably vote for her. That doesn't change the fact that she's a bad candidate. If it were up to me, it'd probably be Elizabeth Warren or Tim Walz.
This will almost certainly not be the matchup, though. Republicans are not going to run Vance. Don't be silly. Nobody likes him. It's gonna be like, Carlson v. Newsom.
Why is she a bad candidate? Not a bait question. Interested in the take.
She doesn't inspire a lot of confidence. She has a lot of good positions, but I haven't heard her articulate them well. She said that Harris was "working tirelessly to secure a cease-fire in Gaza", something which we know wasn't true, and more recently brushed off Black Lives Matter, etc. as 'Woke 1 was craazzyyy ᕕ(ᐛ)ᕗ"
There's a good article about her backpedaling here.
There has to be somebody better.
A lot of these guys think there's loads and loads of centrist voters who the DNC can sway with a more moderate candidate. It's failed to work repeatedly because most "independent centrists" are just racist ass Republicans who don't want their families to know they're pieces of shit. If you're not anti GOP at this point, you're a lost cause afaic.
The hype a candidate like AOC could muster with younger generations is what they should be aiming for, but they don't donate or vote in primaries so they'll be ignored and won't turn out, again.
It's literally just racist misogyny. They cannot be convinced that Clinton and Kamala being women isn't the sole reason (with the addition of brown skin for Kamala) they lost despite the many failings of both if their campaigns.
Tim Waltz? The guy who folded in a debate against the blueberry and a few months ago announces he was giving up? That cat is a broke reed.
This already seems like a best-case scenario tbh.
2 years out from the election, Democratic establishment operatives are already going around and manufacturing consent for "settling" for Gavin Newsom. If that is the response to AOC not denying she may run, imagine what will come when she does announce. I'm expecting a tsunami of "she's unelectible" sabotage, like they did to Bernie twice.
Remember how Trump was unelectable?
Which is why Hillary's team gave him active support in winning the Republican primary before stealing the Democratic one
are you guys counting on the us having elections again? i'm not really.
I'm more afraid of the option of pseudo elections. You get to cast a ballot, but then 103% vote for the orinj. The issue is that the average voter won't know the difference because casting a ballot is the entire interaction with the system.
Giant loser vs cool girl who gets it
Yeah but black people might get free puppies also so I gotta vote republican/s
Lolz, we aren't getting off the hook that easily. Just like Mitch McConnell, Trump is going to run again personally, for as long as he "lives".
“lives”.
I’ve pretty much decided that Trump is powered by nothing but prescription drugs. Like, I think he’s just always pissy and in a bad mood about everything all the time because he’s suffering from a combination of dementia and some drug-fueled psychosis; his natural body is just waiting to die.
Your comment reminded me of all that.
I'm predicting that Trump will try to institute a Russian style government with a Prime Minister and a President and claim that he can be Prime Minister for life while Vance or Kushner or one of his other toadies sits as a puppet in the Presidents seat.
Weird.
I didn't think AOC was a presidential candidate until after the primaries.
Maybe we shouldn't be counting our chickens before they hatch.
Reminder that we live in a notably bigoted nation that has problems with women and people of color in positions of authority. Reminder that a lot of voters have issues with young and still relatively inexperienced politicians running for president. Not conservatives. They don't give a fuck who they run for president. But other voters want experience. Reminder that to win we need to get some independents on our side and they definitely aren't going to vote for a far left candidate if they vote left at all. Reminder that at this point, every time we lose, our democracy becomes much, much more threatened by the forces that want it gone.
I like AOC.. What I don't like is continuing to lose and watching our democracy erode.
Based on our bigoted nation, as far as my opinion is concerned, our current best bet to ACTUALLY WIN is Mark Kelly. He is male. He is white. He is more moderate. He has military service. He is a senator. He stood up to Trump in court and won. He is married to a politician who was shot in the head during an assassination attempt and survived. He has the experience and independents and bigots can vote for him without feeling like they're betraying their beliefs.
And despite my OPINION I'm not posting posts pretending to assume he's the chosen Democrat candidate for president years before the primaries even happen.
Reminder that we live in a notably bigoted nation that has problems with women and people of color in positions of authority.
Prediction that you'll forget this when Harris runs again.
Running right-wing candidates hasn't been working, and these "far left" candidates have been very popular. Maybe they should try it for a change. (I don't see stuff like universal healthcare as "far left", but I'm aware the US political spectrum has been fucked by both parties.)
What I don't like is continuing to lose and watching our democracy erode.
What do you think these losses are caused by? I thought it was moving to the right and alienating your base, but that seems to be what you want.
I cannot see the DNC standing a chance for reelection, the entire neo lib platform needs to be dropped for something else
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