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[-] InvalidName2@lemmy.zip 10 points 7 hours ago

As a kid, I was targeted by one of the local churches that some of my family members attended at the time. Apparently at some point in early grade school, some of my school peers who went to that church informed the pastor that I believe in evolution. From then on, adults from that church and kids I went to school with coordinated in tandem to ridicule and isolate me -- a literal child.

Far too many of these people are evil to their core. If they'll harass and intimidate other peoples' children, they'll surely cross any other boundary. It's not even about being unintelligent, so many are simply willfully ignorant.

[-] Malyca@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I went into an Orthodox church as a child with my dad, I'm really tall so I looked grown despite being 12 I guess. I was walking out and evidently you're supposed to face the altar and cross yourself as you leave, walking backwards so your back isn't to the church. I didn't do that and this lady freaked the fuck out, grabbed me by the ear and dragged me back into the church screaming about respect. My dad was just standing there laughing at me. She yelled for a good 10 mins. Made me leave properly, including not crossing myself "like the Catholics", then left. I only knew that way because I'd been in the States up until then and only visited one Catholic church with a friend lol. It scared me so much that I get emotional flashbacks, complete with anxiety attacks, any time I enter a church now. It gave me lifelong fear of religion and churches. I don't understand how an adult can think this is in any way helping.

[-] dewritoninja@pawb.social 1 points 8 hours ago

Thia people vote and drive and hold office. Every day it's harder to not fall into misanthropy

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 6 points 13 hours ago

Your christian perspective is skewed. You should re-align it with the real, existing world.

[-] Kurtismayfield@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 hours ago

Oh god, there are soo many easy ways out of a literal interpretation of the bible..time isn't the same for God, etc.

Lead can't exist in a 7000 year timeframe....

[-] InvalidName2@lemmy.zip 0 points 7 hours ago

Hand-waving it all away is their superpower. Hon, with "The Lord(tm)", all things are possible. Even lead in a 7,000 year time frame.

Not to mention that most of them consider science to be suspicious and wouldn't have even the remotest idea of what lead has to do with anything. Even if you tried to explain it like you'd explain to a 5 year old, they would not get it. Partially because they aren't capable, but partially because they don't want to get it.

[-] Eufalconimorph@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 5 hours ago

I like next-Tuesdayism. The universe will be created next Tuesday, in the exact state it will be then. What you think you're experiencing now is the false memory that will have existed once the universe exists.

[-] cyclonedusk 11 points 22 hours ago

for a second there I thought this was an atheist saying that the cave guide was spouting info from a religious perspective and therefore the information was wrong.

how disappointing.

[-] darkmogool@feddit.org 1 points 20 hours ago

Had to read it twice too

[-] d.rizo@piefed.social 62 points 1 day ago

Maybe we should start reviewing churches the same way: Nice church but the guy at the front was talking funny about his imaginary friend... Only two stars.

[-] Seasm0ke@lemmy.world 48 points 1 day ago

Lol the stained glass was beautiful but they hate gays here

[-] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

The priest clearly doesn’t know what he’s talking about. Matthew 6:5-6 states “And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.”. One star for not obeying the Bible.

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[-] Z745812939054@lemmy.zip 103 points 1 day ago

when people flat out refuse to consider facts, evidence, reality in forming their worldview, then the only thing left is mockery and ridicule, lest other people buy into the stupid bullshit

religion is a fucking cancer on the human species--it's causing preventable deaths ("nO iNsULiN fOr BaBy!!! PRAYING WILL FIX IT"), and it's long past time for it to be relegated to the embarrassing/shameful/fucking asinine drawer of history files

[-] Ekybio@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago

Now remember: These people are still allowed to vote...

[-] sit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 day ago

And worse they exist in sufficient numbers for political parties wanting to cater to their views and ideas, changing the political landscape. Influencing policies, law making.

(This is a pretty echoey comment I guess)

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[-] dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago
[-] YaksDC@sh.itjust.works 40 points 1 day ago

This exact thing happened to me when I was visiting Luray Caverns in Virginia. A kid kept interrupting the tour guide to spout this nonsense, while his parents looked on proudly. The rest of the group eventually audibly groaned whenever the kid opened his mouth. Besides the absolute nonsense the parents were happily teaching this kid to be a rude dickhead.

They are trained to act when some words are said. The parents reward this behavior because it "brings more souls to salvation". In the end it just annoys professionals and makes them unable to teach in class or to even give a tour.

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[-] Th4tGuyII@fedia.io 42 points 1 day ago

It's wild that some people do genuinely believe the earth is only 6000 years old.

There are human-made artefacts you can go look at in a museum right now, potentially even touch with your own hands, that are older than 6000 years old.

Even if you refused to accept other archaeological evidence, recorded human history goes back about 10000 years. So are those 4000 years worth of humans just non-existent?

Like it really must take some proper mental gymnastics to deny something you can see with your own eyes.

[-] Strider@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

Humanity in 6k years would be quite the speedrun at a humorous glance.

Any other perspective arguing this is absolute lunacy.

[-] Th4tGuyII@fedia.io 0 points 10 hours ago

Exactly. By the time you get to 6500 years ago, humanity has already been doing settlements and agriculture that we have archeological evidence of for 1000s of years.

Judging from the estimated timeline of humanity, 6500 years wouldn't even be long enough for us to migrate beyond the hunter-gatherer system and stone tools.

Our ancestors had 100,000s of years, and we only got to settlements and agriculture maybe 10-20K years ago.

[-] Strider@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

Also mind biological changes aren't really quick (but sometimes spontaneous, yes) and even I can now talk about things that happened in two different centuries. So a few thousand years aren't even that much generations (even if you count shorter lifespan but that is mostly a statistical thing due to high death rate of babies).

[-] Danquebec@sh.itjust.works 1 points 13 hours ago

Recorded human history doesn't go back 10'000 years. It's closer to 5000 years.

[-] Th4tGuyII@fedia.io 2 points 10 hours ago

You're very much right. Complex writing systems like we have now begin around 4000-5000 years ago. You can get closer to the right number with proto-writing systems, but unfortunately just barely within what the Christian faith allows.

I guess the Christians can take the W on that one, discounting all over physical evidence of humanity's existence beyond 6500 years ago.

Quite easy to explain: 6000-6500 years ago, when god created the world, it put those things there during the creation process for... reasons.

Checkmate atheists!

[-] grte@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 day ago

Because he's a trickster! Haha! And if you fall for one of his tricks, he sends you to hell! For eternity!

The sanest worldview.

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[-] criticon@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 day ago
[-] keiko@fedia.io 19 points 1 day ago

“I do not understand,” reads an ancient line of pictographs depicting the sun, the moon, water, and a Sumerian who appears to be scratching his head. “A booming voice is saying, ’Let there be light,’ but there is already light. It is saying, ’Let the earth bring forth grass,’ but I am already standing on grass.”

“Everything is here already,” the pictograph continues. “We do not need more stars.”

(thank you for sharing the link. i hadn't read that one yet and it's very good <3)

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[-] BillyClark@piefed.social 28 points 1 day ago

The author of that review also doesn't know how to use punctuation.

"They gave inaccurate information from a Christian perspective," is most straightforwardly read as if the person giving the information is Christian.

Whereas, "They gave inaccurate information, from a Christian perspective," is what they meant, that the receiver of the information is Christian.

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The Venn Diagram of People who believe a literal interpretation of the Bible & People who don't know how to write well, is pretty much a circle within a circle.

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[-] mrfriki@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Ok, I guess I'm too lost to christian logic... Where exactly the 6000-6500 years figure is supposed to come from?

[-] SnailMagnitude@mander.xyz 9 points 1 day ago

It's from big James Usher trying to pretend the Torah is historical for lolz.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ussher_chronology

It's like a Temu Sumerian Kings List

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[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 day ago

They ~~walk among us~~ control us through violence

This isn't some wacko fringe. This is the people who control the state in USA at least.

[-] NABDad@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

No, the people who control the state are not these people. These are the ignorant people that are used by the people who control the state.

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[-] CameronDev@programming.dev 33 points 1 day ago

Imagine being confident that its not 300m, but unable to pin it down to the exact number of years. It was only 6000-6500 years ago, did you lose count?

[-] lauha@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Both views can be right, assuming big enough errorbars.

Earth is 6000 years old ±14 billion years.

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[-] ChaosPilot@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 day ago
[-] scutiger@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Lead can exist without having previously been uranium.

[-] Frenchgeek@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 hours ago

But it can't exist without having been Hydrogen.

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[-] Hinterwalder@feddit.org 1 points 20 hours ago

I grew up in a religious sect that believed this. I was a young earth Creationist but never bought into the 6-7,000 year age of earth variety. That seemed obviously forced to me. I didn’t think the genealogies proved much of anything because they aren’t internally consistent . I also believed in evolution, just not as a theory of origin.

That said, even as someone who could accept a 20,000 year age of earth, I never felt the need to interrupt others in public. I recognized it wasn't going to convince anyone and was just a dick move. I think most Creationists also view these people as weird assholes.

[-] FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago

I think creationists are weird arseholes who just keep their shit quiet when they know they are outnumbered

They get plenty mouthy when they feel bold enough

Because they're stupid, and ignorant, and incredibly insecure (because they know they're stupid) when they hear intelligent people talk of things that are beyond their understanding

[-] Hinterwalder@feddit.org 1 points 12 hours ago

I think similar thoughts toward those who harbor these opinions about Creationists.

40% of Americans are Creationists. If they were all as you say, these things would happen to all of us all day, every day. But they don’t because most Creationists are capable of nuanced thinking and don’t stereotype everyone who disagrees with them.

[-] Marternus@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 day ago

Of course it can be! Where is your faith? God's ways are unfathomable!

[-] FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world 0 points 14 hours ago

I have been told that their god made time move at different rates, just because, and that's why it's different according to physics vs their fairytale

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