It's the sheer laziness and cynical nature of US comedies which sucks - develop a formula and keep shitting out episodes until there are enough for syndication. That's it. The actual show itself is just 20 minutes of meaningless, throwaway nothing with some jokes. Occasionally a show will try something different but 90+% of them are just this until cancellation or syndication.
Not sure why you are singling the US out. Most TV world wide is like that.
Me with American Dad et al. They're just soul-crushingly mean-spirited.
I mean if you understand that they're satire, then they can be funny.
That being said American dad past season 9 and Family Guy past season 7 have severely declined in quality to the point where they're not funny to me anymore.
I've noticed that with Family Guy in particular, the writers of that really have it in for women.
Wait, WHAT. I thought the likes of Seth MacFarlane were pretty progressive. But I also live a sheltered life. ELI5 please lol
Louis Griffin in particular is pretty bad, but the female characters are very one dimensional, and often portrayed as being very shallow and annoying, whereas the male characters are much more fleshed out and three dimensional.
I'd bet money Seth Mcfarlane doesn't have a good relationship with his mother.
Thank you for telling me politely
Friends is a funny show. But I’ll say that after season 5, it got progressively less and less funny.
Idk why you're being downvoted, you're right. The shows first few seasons were great because the humor felt original and the chemistry between the characters felt organic.
I felt like all of the characters declined. Chandler's sarcasm became more and more forced. Ross getting divorced again and again got repetitive, I also didn't like how they handled him having a kid. Joey's character was lobotomized and he went from being a funny womanizer to being a child in an adult's body. The girls stayed more consistent, but I felt like Phoebe's shtick kind of wore off and became annoying. I also hate the ending.
I think the first half of friends is one of the best sitcom products that American TV has produced, but the second half is just mediocre.
Absolutely. I think everyone became one dimensional. And you’re right, they all had great chemistry in the first seasons.
I also don’t know what people are talking about when they call the humor “dated”. I don’t think it’s dated. It’s just that different people find different things funny. I mean, who can forget “PI-VOT” and then “I’d like to return this couch. I’m not completely satisfied with it” - says Ross as he returns a mutual couch, that’s been severed in two
Chandler's dad is pretty dated
I guess that’s true. But my point is that the show doesn’t hinge on jokes like that.
Me with Big Bang Theory.
I genuinely don't understand why anyone likes it. Every moment is pure torture to me. Humor is subjective, sure. But I just don't get it.
I thought it was okay. A lot of the humor relies on awkward social situations being funny which is a hit or miss.
... Bazinga! Ridiculously loud laughing ensues
I don't know about others, but I can tell you the main reason why I like it.
I've had to work with not one, but two guys who were exactly like Sheldon Cooper from the show, in terms of intelligence and character. They also quite looked like him. That was in different cities and different jobs. Both were absolutely self-righteous and 100% full of themselves. One of them seemed to think of himself as second only to God himself. It was brutal.
So, watching the series provided me with a lot of comic relief.
Anything with a laugh track in it is poison to my mind.
You remove the laugh track and it turns out it's all verbal abuse.
The tv show "Kevin can F**k himself" makes fun of this exact thing. Highly recommend it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJB6VQ0his4
My face when someone asks if I have watched Game Of Thrones (which hearing about it is the extend of the knowledge I have).
I'm not a fantasy person, but I had a gf who was a HUGE GoT fan. She whined enough to the point I watched it with her.
I still don't like it.
I like tits and peter dinklage. It checked some boxes for me.
Imagine if Peter Dinklage got implants. You'd be in heaven.
Same experience here, my wife was obsessed with it and badgered me mercilessly until I finally sat down and watched... I lasted about 5 minutes before I welped and slapped both my thighs as I got up to play games
Me watching any sitcom
I think sitcoms that don't rely on laughing tracks (Scrubs, Malcolm, Better Off Ted, etc.) are genuinely funny. Else it's give lor take. I found HIMYM really funny but not Friends.
I think sitcom hate has gone overboard. It became trendy and cool on sitcoms for some reason. I personally am okay with sitcoms if the characters are well written and the writers can write gags that naturally fit with their personalities.
It's not for everybody and it's certainly not nuanced or pointed humor at all, but it's funny and it holds up.
I disagree. I grew up watching reruns and I liked it. Recently I tried watching it, and the jokes did not hold up. I'd argue that Seinfeld and Fraiser held up better. But to each their own.
To me the issue with Seinfeld is Seinfeld himself. He's just a very bad actor and he sticks out like a sore thumb with the other characters. Watching his deadpan face in every episode kills the mood for me.
Some episodes have aged excellently. That one where Phoebe dates a cop, who is definitely giving off white supremacist vibes, and Chandler is going around at every opportunity reminding everyone in absolute terror: "he has a gun!"
My face watching Big Bang Theory
The worst part of Big Bang Theory is how bad it makes you feel when people you know recommend it to you.
"What kind of person do you think I am, exactly? And who do you think this show is for?"
Anytime someone told me I "reminded them of Sheldon" I cut that person out of my life.
If this happens to you often, then you might actually be like Sheldon...
It's happened to me a couple times, I think folks use it instead of the term quirky or autistic because because the only thing I share in common is autism. In contrast I am a violent misanthropic redneck who radiates trauma and depression in ambient enough quantities that I can instantly pack bond with veterans and Slavs.
You don't like watching nerdface performances played for derisive laughter?!
But I actually do like that - it just needs to be IT Crowd or Office Space or Silicon Valley or literally anything is fucking better than BBT gah.
There's a difference between made for nerds and nerdface.
You can tell BBT was not made for nerds, because all the supposed nerd in-jokes get trampled into ground in the service of explaining them to normies.
The one episode I saw had them refer to The One Ring as "a Lord of the Rings ring", and then had them quote the inscription in English rather than the original Black Speech... you can almost hear some dickhead in the writers' room saying "I don't think the audience are going to know what that is, you need to make it clear". You don't see the IT Crowd explaining to the audience why Windows Vista is bad or what any of the posters in the set mean.
Honestly, I love friends, but I would never recommend it to younger audiences.
Humour is a very personal choice, and like colors, not everything being fun for the same people. On top of that, A TON of today's humour descends from friends, so the jokes feel dated and simple, but they were the literal origin of many tropes, at the time it was perfection, like a chewing gum.
And most importantly, nowadays people (specially chronically online people) can't just sit back and relax, they are always being judgemental little pricks to feel superior to everyone else, while not even trying to contextualise the time when what they are seeing was made.
Not to mention how sad it is that all the media, no matter the genre, have to pass their stupid moral compass (whether the progressive one or the conservative one). The whole sit back, relax and have a laugh is lost to them.
Is a very sad reality of hyper judgement they lived in, probably fueled by the cancer that is social media. I'm sad for them, they keep chasing the internet points thinking it will make them happy somehow, they don't just watch something, they keep filling the checklist to then "have something to say".
I'm so happy the internet was not a thing when I was growing up, what a brain worm I dodged, just in time to enjoy it as an adult as well. I'm really sorry for the young people today.
People today really do lack basic critical thinking to the point where it's not just concerning, but could outright explain the decline of our society. I think it should be common sense to consume media while being mindful of its era and audience as well as being able separate the art from the artists. I think it's ridiculous that there are people who are attacking actors for playing an outdated joke on a show 30 years ago. Like how fragile and miserable do you have to be to get that riled up while trying to watch entertainment to relax.
hey, i liked friends
I liked Friends. It hasn’t aged particularly well, it’s not without its flaws, but it was popular for a reason.
More importantly, its success meant NBC continued to invest heavily in comedies, which gave us a golden age of much better shows. A golden age that eventually included Scrubs, 30 Rock, The Office, My Name is Earl, Parks and Rec, Community, etc.
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