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U.S. Warns A Gaza Ceasefire Would Only Benefit Humanity (www.theonion.com)

submitted 1 year ago by can@sh.itjust.works to c/theonion@midwest.social

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“We know there are voices across the world calling for a ceasefire, but what everyone needs to understand is that the only people who stand to gain from halting the bombing campaign are people who deeply value human life,”

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[-] Nobody@lemmy.world 74 points 1 year ago

I do not support the Hamas terrorist attacks against Israel. That’s my Shibboleth. What Hamas did is unspeakable evil and unforgivable.

That said, Palestinians are human beings and around half of their population are children. When you cut off food, water, electricity, and bomb civilian areas, including the cultural hub of all of Gaza, to dust, maybe your retaliation has gone too far.

What if the prisoners held by Hamas are being treated humanely and taken care of? All this mass slaughter to get them back will look even more barbarous.

[-] Nobody@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago

I think the claims are that Israel told Palestinians to move south, then bombed the corridors going south. The Palestinians moving south gave up on finding sanctuary there and went back home to the north. Then got bombed again.

I’m not saying that’s true, just what is being claimed.

[-] tryptaminev@feddit.de 27 points 1 year ago

It is very much true and documented.

in the early days of the current camapaign Israel also told people to flee to the Rafah crossing, to bomb it a few hours later. At that point it could be argued, that the different parts of the government struggled to coordinate their actions and made a mistake.

But since then this has happened repeatedly. Including the bombing on UN operated hospitals, schools and refugee camps it is pretty clear, that Israel considers the prevention of civillians killed by Israeli bombs an afterthought at best.

[-] toasteecup@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

Tbh, I don't think either side is treating people humanely.

[-] aniki@lemm.ee 32 points 1 year ago

One side is an open air prison. Fuck your two sides bullshit.

[-] toasteecup@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the non-constructive commentary. Helps me know who I need to block to cultivate a better experience on lemmy, dicknozzle.

[-] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

You're trying to defend colonialists commiting genocide

[-] toasteecup@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Go back to lemmygrad.

I've stated elsewhere what information lead me to make my comment and asked for objective feedback to allow myself a chance to change my opinion.

Comments like yours are useless unhelpful and reek of absolute brainrot.

If you want to have a discussion, be polite and show me some facts all I'm aware of right now is Israel is bombing civilians and I heard reports of Hamas killing some hostages in early days.

If either of those are inaccurate how about you talk about it instead of being a dickhead?

[-] goldenlocks@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Comments like yours are useless unhelpful and reek of absolute brainrot.

Pure projection here. Go back to history class you've got a lot of learning to do.

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[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago

I mean they're treating hostages humanely. That's just good politics.

[-] SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago

There's a released Hamas prisoner claiming she received good medical treatment and ate the same food as the terrorists. Whoever has a brain in Hamas understands that this is a good idea. We shouldn't trust that everyone in Hamas has a brain though, just out of pure statistics there must have been prisoners who have been abused beyond just having been kidnapped because someone couldn't keep their spite inside themselves.

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[-] Thief_of_Crows@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago

Yeah, those people being genocided need to start being more civil. Otherwise they'll deserve the genocide.

[-] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 25 points 1 year ago

The other issue is that those children will see Israel as the ones that bombed them and killed their family and will be more likely to join Hamas in the future. Further perpetuating this insanity.

An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind.

[-] loutr@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago

I'm starting to think this is a feature, not a bug...

[-] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 year ago

I honestly don’t understand how more world leaders are not condemning Israel’s actions.

Killing innocent people should be wrong whoever is doing the killing. Rishi Cuntface Sunak refuses to ask for a ceasefire because they have the right to defend themselves, like what? Does that mean some of the innocent victims have a right to hit back at Israel.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

Does that mean some of the innocent victims have a right to hit back at Israel.

And that's how Hamas was born.

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[-] takeda@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

There reports that Hamas actually is withholding fuel from the population to cause this.

I mean it could be just propaganda, but when Israel sent sms notifications to evacuate, because they will start bombing, Hamas started giving leaflets to stay at home, and it is just attempt to create panic. Someone posted such leaflet, unfortunately I no longer can find it.

[-] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

when Israel sent sms notifications to evacuate, because they will start bombing, Hamas started giving leaflets to stay at home

Seems like those leaflets were probably good advice. Israel has told northern Gazans to move south, but then proceeded to bomb areas in the south. It's almost seems like the intent was to concentrate them to increase civilian life loss... But why would Israel do that?!

[-] NewDark@lemmings.world 8 points 1 year ago

Oh there's even more angles than just that.

"Oh no, we told them to go south. Must mean everyone still here is Hamas and we can murder these 'combatants' that certainly aren't civilians".

Also, they get to annex even more Palestinian land. It's even on the coast!

I swear to fuck, unless an Israeli mouthpiece is calling Palestinians sub-human, everything else is lies or projection.

[-] tryptaminev@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago

Israel also claimed that the attack on a hospital was a Hamas rocket and showed a video as alleged proof that most news outlets parroted.

Now the NYT analysed the video shown as proof by Israel and concluded it to be an Israeli rocket that exploded two miles away from the hospital.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/24/world/middleeast/gaza-hospital-israel-hamas-video.html

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[-] NewDark@lemmings.world 63 points 1 year ago

Missiles aren't going to sell themselves.

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[-] lettruthout@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago

Funny-sad-real.

[-] cerement@slrpnk.net 21 points 1 year ago

“You honestly didn’t know whether to laugh or cry. Few people ever cried more than once, if you’d used that up, you laughed.”

—Michael David Herr, Dispatches (1977) (writing for Esquire during Vietnam War)