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“We know there are voices across the world calling for a ceasefire, but what everyone needs to understand is that the only people who stand to gain from halting the bombing campaign are people who deeply value human life,”

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[-] toasteecup@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago

Tbh, I don't think either side is treating people humanely.

[-] aniki@lemm.ee 32 points 2 years ago

One side is an open air prison. Fuck your two sides bullshit.

[-] toasteecup@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

Thanks for the non-constructive commentary. Helps me know who I need to block to cultivate a better experience on lemmy, dicknozzle.

[-] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 14 points 2 years ago

You're trying to defend colonialists commiting genocide

[-] toasteecup@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

Go back to lemmygrad.

I've stated elsewhere what information lead me to make my comment and asked for objective feedback to allow myself a chance to change my opinion.

Comments like yours are useless unhelpful and reek of absolute brainrot.

If you want to have a discussion, be polite and show me some facts all I'm aware of right now is Israel is bombing civilians and I heard reports of Hamas killing some hostages in early days.

If either of those are inaccurate how about you talk about it instead of being a dickhead?

[-] goldenlocks@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

Comments like yours are useless unhelpful and reek of absolute brainrot.

Pure projection here. Go back to history class you've got a lot of learning to do.

[-] toasteecup@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

And how about you go fuck yourself?

It's literally impossible to have a conversation where someone is incorrect without you and all of your toxic dipshit friends shitting on the poor soul all for the simple mistake of being incorrect.

For fucks sake you don't even give someone a chance to allow themselves to be informed it's just straight to being an asshole. God.

[-] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Again you literally started by calling someone "dicknozzle". You're the one that decided to lower the tone. Stop acting like a victim.

[-] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I have never been a member of lemmygrad lol

Also you can't ask someone to be polite after calling people "dicknozzle". Whatever that thing is you should go and choke on one.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 15 points 2 years ago

I mean they're treating hostages humanely. That's just good politics.

[-] SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 years ago

There's a released Hamas prisoner claiming she received good medical treatment and ate the same food as the terrorists. Whoever has a brain in Hamas understands that this is a good idea. We shouldn't trust that everyone in Hamas has a brain though, just out of pure statistics there must have been prisoners who have been abused beyond just having been kidnapped because someone couldn't keep their spite inside themselves.

[-] toasteecup@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

I see the other comment, but the reason I made my comment, I remember earlier on in Israel's War on ~palesteinians~ terrorism hearing reports of hostages being killed/paraded around like some kind of disgusting trophy.

Was this information inaccurate?

Source was somewhere on lemmy in one of the various discussions that have happened so bit difficult to track down I'm afraid.

[-] Eldritch@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

Yes. It was incorrect. It was hostage. Not plural. The ethnicity Jewish, German tattoo artist. I'm not 100% on the outcome, though I think she survived. But it wasn't widespread or common. Not defending Hamas mind you.

Outside of the leadership though it's extremely ragtag and lacking in discipline. There's going to be a lot of variation in treatment of hostages just by the particular group that took them. They're mostly teenagers raised in an open air genocide camp. With no resources or hope. Who's families tend to die fairly young via starvation, lack of medical care, or a diet of Israeli bullets. It can drive people to be quite bitter, cruel, and irrational.

And it's really easy to say they should just kick out or turn over the guys who possess all the weapons, and are an active threat against them and their families. When they have no one defending them. It truly is just regular people at the mercy of toxic dicks at either end.

[-] toasteecup@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

It truly is just regular people at the mercy of toxic dicks at either end.

Feels like lemmy when you're incorrect or seem to have an opinion that certain instances don't agree with.

Shitting on lemmygrad and lemmy.ml aside, appreciate you not being a dick and helping to correct my knowledge of the situation. Given what I now understand, my comment was in error.

I'm also not defending Hamas or the Israelis. I definitely understand why Hamas acted as they did, but the Israeli response is absolute garbage.

[-] Eldritch@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

There's a lot of emotion flying around with all this right now. It's better to try to stay back a little bit. Even though that's largely impossible. Because unfortunately outside of the everyday people, none of the other groups involved are innocent or good.

And yeah even us socialists aren't fond of leninists.

[-] toasteecup@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I always find I get along better with socialists even if we aren't 100% aligned politically. In the states, we vote alike, but that's like saying we a straight line alike.

[-] Thief_of_Crows@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 years ago

Yeah, those people being genocided need to start being more civil. Otherwise they'll deserve the genocide.

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