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its soley used for targets that cant fight back.
One man's shortage is another man's bounty.
Why do I have a terrible sneaking suspicion, propaganda or not, that this will be used as an excuse.
Rumors are floating that Russia is toying with making a move on Poland, or perhaps a smaller NATO member. One theory is they're just posturing to detract from the situation with Ukraine and appear strong. Despite this, Ukraine relies heavily on assistance from EU/NATO countries for supplies/money. Even mildly credible threats may force some of those countries to scale back some assistance and focus on internal efforts, which impacts Ukraine's supply chain.
How does this tie in with the US? If a NATO country is attacked and goes Article 5...the US might try to use this as an excuse for lack of significant aid.
The source of those rumors . . . .is apparently the US.
Why would Russia attack Poland, to widen a war that is already a quagmire?
I suspect that the US under Trump not coming to help if a smaller NATO members was attacked by Russia is pretty much considered a realistic scenario in the military planing in Europe for such an event.
Europe's sudden desire for greater military investment started with Russia's invasion of Ukraine but really took of when Trump became POTUS and started his adversarial posture towards Europe (most notably on Greenland), cutting down on help to Ukraine and general militaristic dick-waving.
I think the plan is for Europe to face Russia in a united way and, if the US actually helps in that, that would be nice but not critical.
Judging by the situation in Ukraine if Russia faced a united Europe even without the US it would be crushed no matter how many millions of conscripts they threw at it in human waves.
IMHO the critical part here is a united Europe directly engaging Russia militarily (rather than merely helping with weapons) if Russia attacks an European nation, no matter how small or peripheral, not the participation of the US military.
When the stakes are high and the costs of it real and significant (even just economically, as we saw with the delays in stopping importing Russian fossil fuels when Russia invaded Ukraine) Europe has trouble becoming united in an expedient way.
Judging by the situation in Ukraine if Russia faced a united Europe even without the US it would be crushed
I think that's not the correct lesson. Ukraine, and now Iran, have shown that like in WWI the defenders in 21st century wars have incredible advantages. And that you need to be able to produce drones in massive numbers.
Neither of those favors Europe attacking Russia. Who, you might want to ALSO remember, is a fucking nuclear power.
If you're so eager to go fight Russia, go sign up in Ukraine. But it's a very bad idea for Europe to do so.
Whoa!
How the hell did you leaped from a discussion about "could NATO without the US defend Europe from a Russian attack on it" to "Europe attacking Russia"???!
I don't know which hole that Russia-Propaganda-favorite strawman was pulled out of, but it stinks and has nothing to do with the point that was being made, either by me or in my understanding by anybody before me.
All of a sudden it's like the charge of the tankie brigade around here.
It's been no secret that the orange turd has wanted to pull the US out of NATO. It's also no secret that when he got back into the white house several European countries began to strengthen themselves and each other in the event that does happen.
I just read the prologue for The Enemy Within don't spoil the rest of the story
So glad we’ve been spending billions building and stockpiling these things for my entire life, only to run out after [checks notes] six months of bullshit that accomplished nothing.
Turns out giving a low IQ pedo the keys to the kingdom isn't such a great idea.
Really wish conservatives/regressives weren't so painfully stupid/bigoted.
The keys were for a bunch of expensive bullshit though.
Yes, the idiot deciding to use them is a problem - but so is the fact that they don't work. America was bragging that other nations would find out why they don't have healthcare . . . .except there's not even the capability they thought they had.
Time to buy Lockhead Martin and Raytheon stocks before they hand the resupply bill to the Dems after midterms! /s ?
And accomplished sweet fuck all
They accomplished a lot:
- Throw a lifeline to Putin in the form of higher oil prices.
- Further undermine the international standing of the US.
- Make a complete mockery of whatever rules based order they've pretended to support.
- Encourage Xi to move against Taiwan.
The dismantling of the American empire is proceeding according to plan.
Don't forget that stockpiled weapons don't make any profit. You have to use them to create the need to make more. And make the military industrial complex more money. And those who speculate on those same companies.
Underrated comment. A lot of people don't realize it's only about money and always has been; the kleptocrats ruining this country only care about one thing: line must go up
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Except murdering children in their school. This fuckup should be attached to any title that involves Iran war.
Which was not an accident since they were "precision missiles"
Third hand info, but I heard on a podcast a few months back that the building had been an irgc hideout... like 10 months prior. With the administration's complete knob-gobbling of AI, and no assets on the ground to provide updated intel, it's likely that the AI said "shoot that one", no one bothered to check before pushing the button, and the fathers and brothers of 150 little girls became all the more radicalized against the US.
So I wrote that, then decided to do more research than the DOD did and double-check things.
It's worse than I wrote.
It was an IRGC building adjacent to an IRGC compound... in 2016. (the podcaster misspoke and said months instead of years)
[https://www.theguardian.com/news/2026/mar/26/ai-got-the-blame-for-the-iran-school-bombing-the-truth-is-far-more-worrying](This article from The Guardian) details it quite well.
The building in Minab had been classified as a military facility in a Defense Intelligence Agency database that, according to CNN, had not been updated to reflect that the building had been separated from the adjacent Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps compound and converted into a school, a change that satellite imagery shows had occurred by 2016 at the latest. A chatbot did not kill those children. People failed to update a database, and other people built a system fast enough to make that failure lethal.
The school was near a base, a lot of the parents were officers. They tripple-tapped the school hoping to use dead children as bait to kill their parents.
They’ll just print money and pay Lockheed Martin to build a shit ton more
Americans are idiots for allowing this debt on their ledger.
Ah yes. Like every government asks their populace what atrocities they’d like to commit. I hate an argument by hypocrisy, but your statement is stupid. The majority of Americans want nothing to do with this, if they even have the knowledge of how any of this economic stuff works…just the usual stupid 30% brainless sycophants.
Voting out politicians that support atrocities is a thing. Apparently you think that’s not an option for Americans even though “Americans want nothing to do with this”. If it’s important make it a voting priority. If not STFU. It’s currently not a priority.
You think we actually vote on it? Both parties bomb the shit out of other countries
Mockheed Lartin is loving this.
It's just exposing how the weapons belong to a dead end tech tree. The future of war is getting fragged by dollar store drones.
Honestly I don't think that's what we're looking at. This is closer to what happened with machine guns and then later tanks during WW1 and WW2. What we're looking at is a cavalry charge getting shredded by a machine gun and saying mobile warfare is dead, meanwhile the British and French are doing tank R&D.
This happens every couple of decades and lasts about a decade before proper counters can be developed, mind you it's still busted as shit until said counters appear but still.
I can't wait for the weapons industry to unveil the next man made horror beyond my comprehension they'll think of to counter drone swarms
Things are so bleak my mind automatically answered "decoy conscripts."
In this particular case it'll probably be something we already have just cheaper and more specified. Personally my money is on automated AA designed for drones specifically using relatively cheap parts and firing cheap munitions like small caliber rounds to detonate drone payloads. Will probably still cost a hundred bucks or two but that's well within acceptable costs if they work well enough.
I think it will be something we already have, but AI-driven. Probably with autonomous "shooting decision" this time. But I've seen enough science fiction to know that's a can of worms that is best left closed.
Army Tactical Missile Systems (ATACMS)
Count on the army to refer to their missiles as "attack 'em"s.
What would conservatives/regressives be doing if they weren't wasting all our money on things that don't benefit Americans?
It's almost like we should be voting for the other side that's proven to be better regarding our tax dollars and economy as a whole. But I guess we could keep voting for the side that's openly bigoted and really, really bad at managing money. You know, for the lols.
they are spending it to fund israels wars, and at the behest of israel/aipac/ and thier backers. and it also goes to funding right propaganda, the right wing grifters, and supremecist movements.
Being bigoted is a feature for the regressives.
Capitalism compromises national security.
Becoming clear that the military industrial complex is actually a very badly diaguised kleptocracy, not that I like either option.
The Pentagon has never passed a budget audit. They had 8. This video explains is quite well. https://youtu.be/T9IV09cvXx4
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Yeah, the one thing this Admin can't hide at the end of the day is how much money has been evaporated between the war and whatever financial schemes they've enacted along the way. Hope the Repubs love paying for that
This is what you get when you have an incompetent president whose only "strategy" is to use the military as an extension of his angry outbursts and an equally incompetent secretary of "war" who also believes the only thing necessary to solve the world's problems is an army full of testosterone laden christian warriors let loose with full abandon. And if it diminishes America's standing in the world or its ability to defend itself, all the better.
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It's a good thing we still live in a world where there's a rule of law and we don't have enemies that might take advantage of our military weakness and like attack us or something
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