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[-] dil@piefed.zip 2 points 13 hours ago

I feel like im never early to things, so I've been using linux for 2 years it's probably pretty popular and has been for a while now

[-] FreddiesLantern@leminal.space 12 points 1 day ago

What I read is a whole lot of vagueness and assumptions and so n so...

Anecdotal evidence doesn't count but Ima use this one today: I know a guy.

Not a super tech wizard in the slightest but works with pc's, recently told me he joined the linux camp with bazzite. I think we here on the fediverse all probably know someone who recently switched through proton/bazzite or mint/ubuntu ...

And those might not all stick around, but some will.

As long as MS keeps shooting themselves in the foot and showing their allegiance to drumpelstilskin and company I'd like to think people are going to take notice.

It's not gonna be that old lady next door but her grandson at some point probably will be coming across linux at some point.

[-] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 4 points 10 hours ago

Yeah I'm having conversations with the most broie business school types and finding out they're running mint. I grew up not knowing anyone who used Linux except maybe at school.

[-] Widukin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 11 hours ago

Just shutdown my PS5 for good until it will be moddable, and upgraded my mid-tier PC and switched to Bazzite to use it as a game console. After getting used to the new OS, everythings been flawless so far, I'm happy I've made the switch.

[-] Methio@jlai.lu 140 points 2 days ago

Just note how the guy starts with "only Microsoft numbers can be trusted" is biased bullshit. Pretending a company will give true numbers at all time, is a big lie. If anything they will inflate numbers and they'd try to hide the truth as much as they can because investors are watching.

While there will be truth in bots taking a part of the traffic, the whole article is Microsoft bootlicker talk.

Taking another random tool that seems to filter bot for results is just him trying to get a confirmation for his bias.

Yes a 10% stat at a given time by a given measurement tool, is not equal to a true 10% userbase. Yes there are bots. Yes there are Linux and Windows zombies alike.

Still, linux desktop is going up, with a fraction of the marketing power Windows and Apple have.

[-] _Nemo_@lemmy.ml 52 points 2 days ago

Still, linux desktop is going up, with a fraction of the marketing power Windows and Apple have.

This isn't entirely true. Linux is getting a lot of help from Microsoft.

[-] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 3 points 10 hours ago

They say every million in Microsoft ad spend is a quarter point in Linux desktop share.

[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 2 days ago

To be fair...

This is 'windowslatest.com'.

Totally agree with you, but... the bias ... was foreshadowed, lol.

[-] jodanlime@midwest.social 24 points 2 days ago

FWIW this website is always like this, every article I've read from latest feels like it came from the MS PR desk.

[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I wonder why that could be, rofl!

Surely MSFT would always be clear, transparent, and forthright with the public, ahahahaha!

[-] Kristof@scribe.disroot.org 13 points 2 days ago

Trust that Microsoft will give true numbers, wink wink

[-] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Just note how the guy starts with "only Microsoft numbers can be trusted" is biased bullshit.

I would argue misquoting someone to fit your argument is more a egregious example of "biased bullshit".

Only Microsoft or OEM partners can tell you with the highest accuracy how many people use Windows now versus five years ago.

This is literally true. They're not saying they WILL tell you the accurate numbers, they're saying only they have those numbers to tell.

I own 6 Windows Professional licenses. I am presently using two. You really think Microsoft are the ones to trust?

Having numbers others don't doesn't make those numbers useful or true in every context.

[-] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

No. No one is telling anyone to "trust Microsoft", no one is saying "the numbers Microsoft reports are true". That is a quote the guy above invented from thin air.

Edit: but for the record, it would be lawsuit territory for MSFT to actually publish false numbers. The shareholders would absolutely ream them. They're allowed to not post numbers, but they're not allowed to post false numbers.

[-] MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 hours ago

They don't have to publish false numbers. Just keep vague which numbers they are posting. "Total active licenses" was what I referenced earlier.

[-] marcie@lemmy.ml 24 points 2 days ago

Ignoring that the default browsers on many distros are seen as bot traffic, filtering the alleged bot traffic on Linux still results in around 7% of overall traffic, up from 4ish a year ago. It also doesn’t explain the giant leaps in downloads on many distros that correlate with the spike. It’s possible some organization set up a ton of computers with openclaw and a wide variety of distros on it I guess to influence opinion 🤷‍♀️

Also extremely biased source

[-] voytrekk@sopuli.xyz 48 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Copium

To address some of the author's points.

  1. MacOS vs OSX: to my understanding, safari reports the OS as OSX still, likely for compatibility reasons. 3rd party browsers such as chrome changed their agent to macOS, which explains the split. macOS users are more likely to use Safari in general.
  2. Bots: Does the author really believe these sites aren't capable of detecting bots? I'm sure some slip through, but if not traffic were included in general, then Linux would be at a 90% share or higher. They just consume way more page traffic than a human ever could.
  3. Data corrections: Sure, the data may get corrected a bit to bring Linux numbers back down, but there is a clear trend that Linux numbers are rising. It also happens that Windows is where people are migrating from the most.
  4. Official numbers from Microsoft: lol
[-] marcie@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

Bots: Does the author really believe these sites aren’t capable of detecting bots? I’m sure some slip through, but if not traffic were included in general, then Linux would be at a 90% share or higher. They just consume way more page traffic than a human ever could.

Only other possibility I can think of is llms made botting for small operators more accessible. Still leads to a lot more people running linux

[-] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

it's weird (perhaps convenient) that their explanation is "bots" but they don't mention bot metrics from StatCounter themselves: according to StatCounter numbers, bot traffic share increased 0.37% in July 2026, while Linux Desktop grew 1.92% in the same month.

Sounds like they're in denial.

[-] nyan@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 days ago

Okay, so did they account for the bots that claim to be Windows PCs? (I'll bet there are still some running around that identify themselves as IE 6, although those may finally no longer be the majority of all bots.)

[-] lefaucet@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 day ago

Aww :(

So is it still 4%?

[-] TowardsTheFuture@lemmy.zip 27 points 2 days ago

Yes there are zero bots running windows and nothing would ever inflate those numbers pleased clap.

[-] novafunc@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 2 days ago

Overall probably closer to the truth.

I wish people didn't obsess over these large numbers as much. Like when Linux suddenly hit 5% on Steam when that was clearly just an outlier and was destined to fall right back down.

[-] it_depends_man@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

The only interesting thing about the numbers is that eventually, people outside the tech bubble will pick up on it and think about seeing what the fuss is about and if it's a solution for them and then maybe also switching.

In that sense: I "heard" that the number is 20% actually. Windows is so over. It's true. Pass it on.

[-] BlaestEgnen@feddit.dk 1 points 1 day ago

Honestly it seems like they more or less identified all of the former unidentified users, and it turns out the vast vast majority of which are on unix based systems.

If this goes right down again, I'd imagine the unidentified users to go up - But would be a decent indication for a lot of traffic being scrapers

[-] nibbler@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

How would that clearly be an outlier? Hindsight is 20/20, right?

[-] novafunc@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 days ago

Something strange with the March 2026 results was that it had two new distro entries, "0 64 bit" at 17.60% and "64 bit" at 8%. In April, one of those entries disappeared and the other's share dropped significantly. In May, both were gone entirely and Linux was back to a more reasonable marketshare of 4%.

[-] nibbler@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 days ago

I'll admit that weird and unexplained data is a hint to something going wrong. Shame on steam.

[-] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 2 days ago

Because these numbers experience wild fluctuations on a regular basis. Does it make sense to you that people are just joining and quitting Windows by the masses simultaneously?

[-] SocialistVibes01@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 days ago

I'm on pro Linux side and still think that trend was pushed by AI scrappers.

Man I've seen it used in doctors offices. I think it's picking up a lot.

[-] jaschen306@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

Jokes on them. I'm running WSL.

[-] yuurei@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

Why not try promoting the Linux desktop as a platform that makes it easy to use AI bots?

[-] SitD@lemy.lol 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

guys don't tell them that this also means that windows is poop, since it's either too bad at scaling or at tech infrastructure to even attract ai developers to the platform 😂

[-] eremophila@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 days ago

Humans are why we cannot have nice things. The internet was always going to get ridiculous, just like the usa was always going to prove back to the future right in the stupidest possible way.

[-] brokenwing@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 days ago

There are thousands of organizations that rely on Microsoft for their office suite, Outlook, Teams and these companies have thousands of PCs. They can mandate what update will get pushed, restrict admin access, running monitoring tools etc.. These are hard to replace.

[-] helix@feddit.org 3 points 2 days ago

Who cares, just fake it till you make it.

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