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[-] filister@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Unfortunately the problem with global warming is that it happens very slowly over time. Scientists were warning us of the impacts of global warming for at least a decade but we have somehow prioritized the short term gains and now we and our children will bear the fruits of our negligence.

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Scientists were warning us of the impacts of global warming for at least a decade

They've been warning us with some urgency since at least the 1970s. There were concerns published about it in the late 19th century. By the early 1990s the warnings were loud and clear for everyone to hear.

[-] filister@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

Yes, this makes us even more ignorant. At some point in the past I was kind of hopeful we as united humanity can overcome this problem, like with the ozone layer hole, but then these individualistic policies started to sweep over the world and people started to care about other problems more.

[-] gandalf_der_13te@feddit.org 4 points 3 hours ago

so just to put this in context: we're having a doubling of installed solar capacity around every 3 years. currently we have 3% of total energy supply from solar energy. so it will take maybe another 15 years to get close to 100% renewable energy (if we assume that exponential growth continues). source: ourworldindata (go to website and hover over solar energy to see numbers)

so we'll end up in 2040 with roughly ... let me do the math ... 1.6°C total temperature difference compared to 1970 in 2040?

[-] textik@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Not to detract from your point, but assuming that exponential growth continues is one of the classic statistical blunders.

[-] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 23 points 6 hours ago

During the late 1970's, ExxonMobil scientists predicted global warming would accelerate with use of fossil fuels. They were shockingly accurate and the f'ed up weather patterns are the result. Keep buying and driving gas guzzlers.

[-] DigiHippie@lemmy.world 8 points 6 hours ago

Drill baby drill.

[-] Stonewyvvern@lemmy.world 10 points 9 hours ago

That's my bad...I was super gassy the other week. I'll back on the beans and onions.

[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 25 points 11 hours ago

We can't even stop a rise in fascism, an incredibly stupid thing, across the globe. We don't stand a chance against global warming. We're cooked.

[-] gandalf_der_13te@feddit.org 1 points 2 hours ago

we can't even stop a rise in fascism because we lack the tools to do so, most importantly we lack the tool of understanding. we don't even understand what fascism is or why people follow it, thus we stand no chance of tackling the problem at its root. if you really want to combat fascism, you have to understand it first.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 16 points 11 hours ago

We've done more in the last five years to curb fossil fuel consumption than at an point in human history.

From a massive pivot to renewable energy to our Green-Centric foreign policy of blowing up Nordstrem II, embargoing Venezuela, and shutting down the Straight of Hormuz, we are absolutely turning a corner on future fossil fuel consumption.

Donald Trump may go down in history as the most climate friendly leader in our generation. A hundred thousand Greenpeace activists could not have achieved in their lifetime what he's done in less than two terms as president.

[-] Fredthefishlord 3 points 4 hours ago

More. But enough?

[-] dactylotheca@suppo.fi 1 points 3 hours ago

Fossil fuel consumption hasn't actually gone down. All the renewable sources have come on top of energy from nonrenewable ones

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Fossil fuel consumption hasn’t actually gone down.

Hasn't it? We've cut shipped supplies by around 20% and prices have jumped into the $100/bbl range.

[-] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 2 points 5 hours ago

Those billionaire yachts aren't going to fuel themselves!

[-] vinsombra@lemmy.world 11 points 10 hours ago

Hilariously, you are right. It certainly wasn't his intention to do so, but it is happening. Strangely aligned with China spending like crazy to pivot to a green energy super-supplier. End of an era, although no one will admit it yet.

[-] Godric@lemmy.world 13 points 13 hours ago

Goes outside

Ah shit, no way!

[-] bobbbu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 78 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

There is some hope if we chip at it as much as we can. No action is too small:

  • less travelling. Life is fun near home. Happiness isn't tied to an airplane and a beach far away
  • eat less animals. You ll get used to whatever diet in a few weeks. It doesnt have to be vegan or nothing. Also, beans are delicious:)
  • bamboo toilet paper. Grows fast, renewable.
  • plant bushes, trees. Look up local resilient species. I've been planting everywhere I can. You can call your local municipality, they have regreening programs.
  • buy less stuff. Available tech is already good enough.
  • vote with your wallet. This is the only real power we have over corporations, imo. Lots of great easy to repair brands. Fair trade, etc.

If we convince ourselves we are screwed, we ll give up. Be the hero of your own story. YOU DO NOT NEED TO GET IT 100% RIGHT. Any improvement is improvement. We all live different lives, and the economy is hard on alot of us.

I believe:)

[-] moodwrench@lemmy.world 7 points 7 hours ago

No way.. billionaires with yachts and private planes releasing more carbon in an afternoon then I use in a lifetime and I'M the one you think should wipe his ass with bamboo.. get the fuck out of here. Eat the rich then tell me I'm not doing enough because I eat a burger and use proper toilet paper

[-] LandBasedDaveyJones@lemmy.today 6 points 7 hours ago

No. Just no.

This is not an "individual action will solve this" case anymore. WE can't do jack about it, individually. If we get the corporations to stop doing harm, and the rich cut down traveling in their superjets, maybe then. But some schmuck driving a Toyota corolla a few hundred miles on a vacation, or taking a commercial passenger jet on a vacation with 100-some-odd people isn't the problem here.

[-] Fredthefishlord 1 points 4 hours ago

Significant parts of the global climate usage are directly tied to individual actions. 12% is consumer car driving alone. So yes, the schmuck driving a Toyota Corolla is making a significant impact. The sooner you realize that the better, we need action on both corporation and end users.

[-] chinaski@lemmy.ml 37 points 14 hours ago

Unfortunately, you missed the mark. The individual is not the problem and will not make an iota of difference.

Billionaires are the enemy. They are useless. They are pitting the average citizen against one another. There is no good billionaire.

https://www.oxfam.org/en/press-releases/billionaires-emit-more-carbon-pollution-90-minutes-average-person-does-lifetime

[-] Fredthefishlord 1 points 4 hours ago

12% of global emissions are individual car drivers alone. The individual is a sizable portion of the problem, and we need a multi pronged approach that attacks corporations outsized impact and reduces certain emissions from individuals as well.

[-] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

If we dont support billioniares business is, and turned "the individual" into an organized mass, it would work.

I dont know if this opinion, to change using amazon and the other big retailers, will ever come though. I saw someone legit promoting aliexpress for a product not too long ago, and I was surprised no one gave them shit for it.

If Working for and using, for example, amazon, was suddenly shamed and everyone stopped using it, it would stop making the billionaire at the top money. If no one buys the product, no one is willing to work for the company, the company would disolve. bezos still wouldnt be broke, or held to account, but this revenue stream would stop.

Will it happen though? I feel like a nhilist for saying, I dont think so.

[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 9 points 11 hours ago

less travelling

Lol. I don't think anyone reading this is going to stop the minimal traveling they do in the short breaks from The Grind that they get while dipshit rich people are yachting and jetting all over the planet. And they shouldn't. Average people shouldn't have to give up any travelling whatsoever because their budgets prevent them from doing enough to actually cause significant harm anyway. We need to use force to make the real culprits adjust their habits.

Other than that I fully agree.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago

vote with your wallet

"I don't think I'll super size it after all", I saw as I drive past the MegaCity One GigaChad data center.

[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 hours ago

The judge dredd universe is better then ours. The government has actually taken steps to address the housing crisis.

[-] forkDestroyer@infosec.pub 18 points 14 hours ago

bamboo toilet paper. Grows fast, renewable

The bidet gang would like a word with you.

(Seriously though: I agree that every action counts, but I also think that, even if the majority of the population followed that list perfectly, the globalized corporate structure would still be operating in such a way that the personal impact wouldn't be noticeable. When agriculture produces more than what's sold, they have no issue dumping the items that don't sell into the ground. Clothing outlets will shred unsold merch instead of giving it away. The waste is built into the system and a structural change is needed NOW if we are to survive.)

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[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 26 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

and yes, more putting the onus on us, when all of our individual yearly pollution barely amounts to a day of pollution released by average industry.

You know it was industrial propaganda that started the whole personal responsibility thing to begin with right? to shift blame away from themselves and onto you and me.

I mean, yeah, you can make yourself feel good by reducing, but its doing fuckall compared to industrial release.

[-] SpaceCadet@feddit.nl 20 points 15 hours ago

I understand the sentiment, but doesn't "the industry" essentially produce things that are for "us", even if indirectly?

Factories don't exist for their own sake, they exist to make an end product for people. So if you want to change that, we do need to consume less, like the parent you replied to said.

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[-] Zink@programming.dev 9 points 14 hours ago

Your first point is so huge IMO. If you can't enjoy being at your own home then trying to have some kind of fulfilling life is going to be a steeper uphill battle than it already was.

Look at it like the Buddhists and stoics. Thinking your happiness is out there waiting on some beach, or in some fancy car or McMansion, is only going to perpetuate your suffering in the actual real now.

Or put another way, if you decide to find happiness and fulfillment in your home and your local community, and it works, then THEY can't stop you. Whoever that is in your case.

[-] Hazor@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago

Your first point is so huge IMO. If you can’t enjoy being at your own home then trying to have some kind of fulfilling life is going to be a steeper uphill battle than it already was.

Been on the dating apps recently. The number of people who present "travel" as their entire personality is unsettling. Every photo somewhere exotic, every prompt answer is about traveling. It makes me wonder what they're all running from. I don't disagree that vacationing can be enjoyable, but there's more to life.

And don't get me started on the people who try to say that "traveling" is different from "vacationing" and that what they're doing is travelling and not vacationing. Egads.

[-] Zink@programming.dev 1 points 2 hours ago

I bet it's some of what you said, and maybe some of the well-known "buy experiences, not things" saying.

I'm not suggesting that saying is wrong, but I think people can mechanically go through the process of acquiring fancy-looking experiences because that is what you're SUPPOSED to do, just like people can collect fancy-looking posessions on auto pilot because that's what it means to be a successful person.

The last thing you said about people who claim they are "traveling" and not "vacationing" just REEKS of a hollow charade trying to prove that they are part of the upper crust of society.

The catch in all this is that we all have our own individualized needs, and a big part of the self-care work we need to do is figuring out what those things are. Like traveling and having fun vacations is awesome, but for most of us it's not going to be some instant key to life fulfillment. In my case, have always loved nature in general and aquatic life in particular. Some of my best vacation memories are swimming in little pockets of the ocean that looked like giant aquariums full of colorful fish and corals. But that's a rare occurrence and I will also never want to live somewhere tropical. Solution? I built a nice koi pond in my little back yard (in addition to all the other pets my family has). And in addition to the whole "caring for and interacting with water critters" angle, I got to do a lot of learning about chemistry and biology that are nowhere near my professional field, and I got to do a lot of DIYing, and I got a lot of exercise and fresh air out of it too! It helped much more than just my brain.

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[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago

I wasn't aware they could close them.

[-] boomlandjenkins@lemmy.world 21 points 17 hours ago

The US military is one of, if not the largest, enemy of the environment. Every one of us could do our part but without militaries being mindful too, the environment is cooked.

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