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It's true. Let's keep it up!
Thank you for posting this, OP!
Well clearly the problem is 1/3rd of the party, and the solution is to concede nothing to them and run to the center hoping desperately to peel off a few Romney-style Republicans.
The crazy thing is just how popular socialism is across America. Deep rural red America can be quite supportive of socialist policies in practice.
They just don't like the words. The language is poisoned. So they keep listening to the chorus that condemns the words they don't like. Their perception is flat wrong and based on specific lies, but that's a hurdle that has to be contended with, and why it's so complex to discuss.
Yeah I've been wondering if a socialist party calling themselves "the freedom party" would be able to fool all the idiots who vote against themselves. And when the foxmaxx talking head chuds start calling them commies they can just keep repeating "why do you hate freedom?"
According to the same poll, 25% of the respondents had never heard of the Democratic Socialists of America, and 21% had no opinion of them.
Also, 10% of respondents who leaned democratic that the Democratic Party needed to be completely reformed, 47% said it needed major changes, and 39% said it needed minor changes.
Also, this is a major "throw the bums out" moment:
One question was: "Imagine that after the November 2026 elections, most of the current members of Congress are replaced with new members. Do you think that would:"
51% said it would change congress for the better, only 9% said it would change congress for the worse.
Also, even if only 1/3 consider themselves democratic socialists, 73% would be either enthusiastic or OK with nominating someone who described themselves as a democratic socialist, and only 27% would be uneasy or upset by that.
I actually can't find in that poll where people identify as democratic socialists. But, everything else suggests now is an ideal time to run a DSA candidate.
Also, even if only 1/3 consider themselves democratic socialists, 73% would be either enthusiastic or OK with nominating someone who described themselves as a democratic socialist, and only 27% would be uneasy or upset by that.
That 27% are the Democratic establishment. Those somehow still committed to neoliberalism, that sad, failed ideology.
That 73% number I think shows the demsoc policies are popular. Which is the real number to watch. The self-identification with a word subject to a century of negative propaganda is more an indication of how strong the propaganda is these days.
Tend to be younger (59% are younger than 45, compared to 46% of non-democratic socialists aligned with the Democratic Party) and are more likely to be White (57% to 49%)
I really can't parse what they mean by "non-democratic socialists aligned with the Democratic Party." Juche supporters? Those younger than 45 who aren't democratic socialists? What does the percentage have to do with age? Compared to what percentage for those older? Based on how I'm reading it, it's saying that they skew younger but it's hard to tell how much without knowing what percentage of total members are under 45. But it's still quite broad based and not a youth or white movement based on those numbers.
I take it to mean Democrats who are not Democratic Socialists, but it's an odd way of saying it.
Maybe they are including people who aren't registered as Democrats but tend to vote for them?
Wisconsin doesn't have party registration at all and hasn't for a while (though it did when I first registered, and it cant be undone or changed now, leading to the appearance that we just have a huge population of independent voters (about 1/3 at this point), and no other changes in the last 20-ish years.. so if it only includes people who are registered, it misses a lot of important data. Idk about other states, I think there’s at least one other that doesn’t do party registration, but a lot of people opt to be independent if given the opportunity because they lean left and dems kinda don’t.
So I think that interpretation is probably accurate.
Oh yeah, the juche thing is just a joke, but it feels like someone lazily added crosstabs without thinking about what they meant.
Or...or....people are realizing the democratic party wasn't what was advertised
These are Democrats that think the Nordic model is socialism, and the oligarchy thanks them for their ignorance
I'm not in the US and not super knowledgeable about the DSA, but this isn't my vibe at all as a blanket statement.
Many members might think what you're asserting, perhaps, but doesn't seem to be the organisation's stated platform at all:
I'm not in love with the ICE collaboration, and using private contractors for "city-run" grocery stores by Mamdani, but the DSA seems faaaaaaaaaaaar better than practically any other organisation with any momentum in the USA.
Perhaps quit your whining and actually do something to push the USA and the DSA organisation, further left. I have no idea what the internal organisation governance is like, but I'd imagine it'd be at least somewhat meaningfully democratically elected.
You and your comrades ought to consider joining to make interventions, which can be even more effective if you do so together.
We leftists should always intervene in the places we can be most effective. (Not an argument for lesser-evilism, an argument for bringing those somewhat further right, further left).
There is no point appealing to the Democratic party establishment in my view, but building a movement via the DSA to essentially take over the Democratic party seems like a decent strategy (the USA having the terrible voting system that is has)
The DSA (to me, from the outside) seems like a good opportunity to make socialist arguments to those who are primed to listen.
Or you know, you can just poo pop them from the outside (and perhaps you're right to do that, if their aims are completely unacceptable).
They may be a reformist organisation, and not a revolutionary one, but present a very good opportunity to build a working class movement, that eventually becomes revolutionary.
Just some thoughts, you do whatever.
Reform never works, any leftists that ever read any amount of theory knows this
Nothing works until it does. And revolution has yet to produce a stable communist society on the scale of a major nation, so maybe don't talk too much shit at the people trying to make the world a better place to live in.
Anyone thats read an ounce of history knows this method has been tried before countless times. Theres a reason we say get a basic understanding of historical materialism.
So did ya read my comment? I'm not suggesting reformism works, just that you should intervene to move the DSA in a more radical direction.
But it just seems like you want to complain from the sidelines 👍👍👍
It's still an improvement. A right step towards class-conciousness, but don't get your hopes up.
It's not a step in the right direction, this has happened several times in the past with the same results
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