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[-] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

I'm not in the US and not super knowledgeable about the DSA, but this isn't my vibe at all as a blanket statement.

Many members might think what you're asserting, perhaps, but doesn't seem to be the organisation's stated platform at all:

https://www.dsausa.org/

I'm not in love with the ICE collaboration, and using private contractors for "city-run" grocery stores by Mamdani, but the DSA seems faaaaaaaaaaaar better than practically any other organisation with any momentum in the USA.

Perhaps quit your whining and actually do something to push the USA and the DSA organisation, further left. I have no idea what the internal organisation governance is like, but I'd imagine it'd be at least somewhat meaningfully democratically elected.

You and your comrades ought to consider joining to make interventions, which can be even more effective if you do so together.

We leftists should always intervene in the places we can be most effective. (Not an argument for lesser-evilism, an argument for bringing those somewhat further right, further left).

There is no point appealing to the Democratic party establishment in my view, but building a movement via the DSA to essentially take over the Democratic party seems like a decent strategy (the USA having the terrible voting system that is has)

The DSA (to me, from the outside) seems like a good opportunity to make socialist arguments to those who are primed to listen.

Or you know, you can just poo pop them from the outside (and perhaps you're right to do that, if their aims are completely unacceptable).

They may be a reformist organisation, and not a revolutionary one, but present a very good opportunity to build a working class movement, that eventually becomes revolutionary.

Just some thoughts, you do whatever.

[-] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Reform never works, any leftists that ever read any amount of theory knows this

[-] Soggy@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Nothing works until it does. And revolution has yet to produce a stable communist society on the scale of a major nation, so maybe don't talk too much shit at the people trying to make the world a better place to live in.

[-] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Anyone thats read an ounce of history knows this method has been tried before countless times. Theres a reason we say get a basic understanding of historical materialism.

[-] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

So did ya read my comment? I'm not suggesting reformism works, just that you should intervene to move the DSA in a more radical direction.

But it just seems like you want to complain from the sidelines ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘

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