This is the fourth time I've read a story about kids being arrested for being outside.
America really is a country where you were not allowed to be outside unless you're in a car.
This is the fourth time I've read a story about kids being arrested for being outside.
America really is a country where you were not allowed to be outside unless you're in a car.
don't worry... it will get better soon enough... in a bit they will start arresting parents for driving with kids in the car.
Liability Hot Potato
Caller doesn't want to accept liability just in case Something Happens to the kids.
Call-taker doesn't want to accept liability just in case Something Happens to the kids.
Comm. Center supervisor doesn't want to accept liability just in case Something Happens to the kids.
Dispatcher doesn't want to accept liability just in case Something Happens to the kids.
Patrol supervisor doesn't want to accept liability just in case Something Happens to the kids.
Patrol LEOs don't want to accept liability just in case Something Happens to the kids.
The end product of this bureaucratic nightmare is harassment-by-proxy, where the cops show up to tell a lady kids aren't supposed to play outside and everyone gets to go home not feeling like they were responsible for the insanity.
- Ex-cop, occasionally insisted on not responding to ridiculous calls that got cancelled when I pressed the issue, was eventually fired
ACAB, cuz the good ones get harassed and fired.
or the good ones get killed by their coworkers (and then someone minority or lgbtq+ person gets framed for the murder).
5 seconds before a good one gets fired, they're a bastard? What about 5 days? 5 months?
What about someone with all the good intent in their heart 5 minutes before they put on a badge? The second it touches their uniform they instantly become a bastard?
Your ridiculous position melts the second you think about it critically.
Conform or get shit canned. You should know better than me.
He explained it but you didn't read.
The combination of not giving kids independence then complaining how teens and young adults are dependant on their parents is diabolical.
I often look at the independence that kids and teens are given in other countries and wish that I could have been given that sort of a childhood. I seriously think I wouldn't be as socially inept as I am today if I had that.
You can still learn though. It's always awkward in the beginning but adults learn faster than kids.
Not sure why you're getting downvoted.
Life sucks, we're all screwed up in some way or another. But just saying "well that's how I am now" is the standard approach these days, and it only perpetuates the problem.
In the 70s, every kid in the he area knew every other kid. The mother's all knew each other or at least had phone numbers. Weekends and summers we would go play all day, sometimes in 1 house. The whole neighborhood looked out for all of us. If a mother needed to find a kid, just start calling the list of mothers. Regardless,when the streetlights came on, that was the signal to go home.
No one questioned it. That's the way it was. We would play football in the streets and move aside for cars. We would drink from the garden hose. Every kid played.... There was even one kid missing a leg who used a fake limb, we let him at football with the rest of us (granted he played line), but he was one of us.
Miss those days
Same. We were out all day, no one knew where we were. No cell phones. Go home by dark for supper.
Hey. That’s the way it is where i live in Norway.
Just depends on where you live
I grew up in the 90's and it was mostly the same. Leave home at like 9am to just go start knocking on friends doors to see who was available. Get a group together for some tag or ballgame if the weather was good, stay inside and play with toys if the weather was bad. Rule was to call home by 5 so my mom would know if she should prepare dinner for us or not.
There are really no spaces for kids or teens do anything anymore which is crazy. Then if they are playing outside it is also an issue.
Much like the rest of society, the only reason to leave the house must involve spending money. Otherwise, you're just tricking poor billionaires and business owners by getting their hopes up and making them treat you nice, without adequate financial compensation.
I'm neither and still feel this way
Lots of people not reading the article (me neither!) So i posted it here. My biggest question is why are all these people calling the cops? What is the other side of the story? Is Fox News fanning a moral panic about child trafficing?
A Pennsylvania Mom Says the Cops Were Called on Her 4 Times—for Letting Her Kids Be Outside
State lawmakers are mulling a law that would establish commonsense protections for families that give their children a reasonable amount of independence.
Lenore Skenazy | 7.30.2026 6:30 AM
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Whenever Ms. Gordon lets her sons go outside now, she cleans house. "All right, my kid just went around the block to his friend, let me sweep," she says. "Because I know if the house is clean, that's the first step toward making a good impression on Child Protective Services. It's a bizarre thought process, but—"
But not completely irrational. Gordon (who asked not to use her first name) has had the cops called on her four times for letting her sons, 5, 7, and 9, walk and play outside in Bala Cynwyd, a suburb of Philadelphia. Reason reviewed several private messages Gordon exchanged with friends corroborating her version of events.
The first time was about 18 months ago.
"I was puttering around in the garden," says Gordon. "The kids were around the corner, but they were never more than a few hundred feet away."
She'd given the boys her phone to play Pokemon Go, the game where you find Pokemon nearby using virtual reality. "They said a woman called to them and said, 'Are you lost?'" Gordon says. "And they ignored her because they were very busy. And she must've called the police."
The boys were already almost home when the police pulled up. "My son [6 at the time] insisted on describing the whole Pokemon thing to this poor cop who I think decided to cut the visit short because of that."
Incident No. 2 involved Pokemon again.
Gordon was in the little gym across the street from her home with two of her kids. One was in a soccer program, so the youngest, 5, asked to go out to the sidewalk to catch some more Pokemon. Gordon said he could for a few minutes.
"He performed perfectly," says Gordon, and soon came back in. So did a woman who spoke to Gordon about seeing the child unattended. Either before or after this, the woman apparently called the cops. A cop arrived soon after.
Gordon told the cop she didn't think her son had been in any danger. The cop agreed. When he left, Gordon followed him outside and saw him telling the woman and another man in the parking lot, "'No, there's nothing further I can do. There's no signs of abuse or neglect.'" Concluded Gordon, "They wanted me arrested or something."
Note that while it's becoming unusual to see kids as young as 5 outside on their own, psychologists say that, developmentally, kids are ready to walk to school by that age.
In Incident No. 3, Gordon was walking around the neighborhood with her 5- and 7-year-old. The older boy wanted to go home, the younger one wanted to keep walking. So she told the 7-year-old he could walk back by himself. That meant he had to cross a couple of streets quiet streets he was already allowed to cross.
When he got to his corner, some pickleball players asked if he was lost. He said no. They asked him where he lived. "He pointed to our house because you could see it from the corner," says Gordon.
He proceeded there. And at some point afterward, so did the police. This time Gordon's husband spoke to them. "I don't know the exact conversation, because I wasn't there," she says. "But basically it was like, 'Yes, he's 7. He's allowed to walk up the block and around the corner by himself. He's even allowed to go the playground by himself. I mean—it's right there.' And the cop was like, 'Yeah, I don't see anything here to worry about.'" Case closed.
Then somehow came Incident No. 4. Gordon and her 5- and 7-year-old were walking a few blocks to go put books in a little free library. On the way home, along the local commercial avenue, there's a plastic elephant in front of a car dealership that the 7-year-old likes to "ride." His mom discourages this.
On this trip, she and her younger son were partway down the block while her 7-year-old had stayed behind at the elephant. Her younger son had to go to the bathroom. So Gordon continued down the block, hoping this would help the older boy learn the natural consequences of his dawdling. He yelled at his mom to wait; she yelled back for him to catch up. But she wasn't worried, because even if he didn't, he's taken this walk hundreds of times before. And each time she turned around, there he was—a block behind her.
Mom and younger son got home, as did the elephant-rider a few minutes later. But a few minutes after that, a cop arrived, too, saying, "'I heard a report about a kid who looked lost by the BMW dealership.'"
"So it occurs to me that the person [who called the cops] must've followed us home," says Gordon.
First of all: Let's hear it for the cops who refused to escalate these calls into anything more than a check-in and goodbye. But then let's think about what it means when anyone with a phone can set the power of the state in motion.
The problem, Gordon points out, is that when you have more than one kid, you simply cannot helicopter parent. For instance: What if you have a few that want to stay at the playground and one who needs to run home? (Exactly the situation Kansas mom Shaley Knickerbocker found herself in—and had the cops called on her.)
When she thinks back to her own childhood in Brooklyn, says Gordon, "The best memories I have are being away from adults." Going to the library or store—even building a little clubhouse in an old widow's bushes.
Now the Pennsylvania Legislature is considering a Reasonable Childhood Independence bill that would establish commonsense protections for families like Gordon's.
Currently, Pennsylvania's child neglect law is broad. It says parents must provide "proper" care. "But the word 'proper' is vague and it invites bias and subjectivity,'" says Kathleen Creamer, managing attorney of the Family Advocacy Unit at Community Legal Services of Philadelphia.
House Bill 1873 would amend the definition of neglect to exclude age-old independent activities, like walking to school, playing outside, or being home alone for a reasonable amount of time. The bill advanced out of committee in late 2025 and awaits further action from state lawmakers.
Gordon and her husband bought their house because it is across the street from a playground. She wants her kids to have a healthy, happy childhood—running errands, riding their bikes, and playing, without the threat of government intervention.
After all, she says: "What's the point of living across from a playground if my kids can't go there?"
First of all: Let's hear it for the cops who refused to escalate these calls into anything more than a check-in and goodbye
What a low fucking bar. After all this and they still can't help but bootlick
"Give it up for the cops not murdering anyone this time"
I'm happily in camp fuck the police but I think she just wanted it to be known she didnt blame the police for simply responding to the calls. Of course it's a low bar to applaud them for not escalating, but it doesn't feel right to call her a bootlicker.
Not a given in this day and age
another person was trying to helicopter her seven yr old using police.
I would like a news story to investigate what's going on inside these people's heads
When I was 9 my friends and I would ride our bikes miles from home on a regular basis.
I did this too in the mid 2000s before most kids had a cell phone. There was no way to contact my parents or for them to contact me for hours at a time. I would even be out by myself all day. I know people today who are afraid to let their kids do that because of how dangerous it is, but they're kids have smartphones with gps location tracking on it. They somehow think it's more dangerous for kids today.
There was a documentary a few years ago about a German correspondent in the US. She let her teenage kids have the same freedoms as in Germany: roam the neighborhood, bike to school etc. The neighbors called CPS on her when the kids were in the street and the school talked to her that her kids weren't allowed to come by themselves, she HAD to drive them.
Which is wild, cause when I was in elementary school, I would walk/ride a bike like 5 miles to school, and the school had a massive bike lockup because so many others did the same as well.
Crazy how we've gone from "Get the hell out of the house and don't come back till the street lights come on" to "OH MY GOD, CHILDREN ARE IN PUBLIC. CALL THE POLICE! CALL THE NATIONAL GUARD! CALL ANYBODY!!!!!!111!"
Well we can't actually do anything to stop the literal blood-drinking pedophiles who run this country, so instead we try to make sure children are never seen outside. It's the next best thing.
implying that it isn't the blood-drinking pedophiles who want the children locked up at home; so they stay numb and isolated and grow up to be adults making money for the pedos.
They don't want to rape all kids (not physically or sexually, anyways). Of course, they all want to rape kids.
Crazy how we’ve gone from “Get the hell out of the house and don’t come back till the street lights come on” to “OH MY GOD, CHILDREN ARE IN PUBLIC. CALL THE POLICE! CALL THE NATIONAL GUARD! CALL ANYBODY!!!111!”
I daresay it's because of the kids in that first scenario growing up and remembering what they witnessed while they were out on their own. Not all of them, of course.
Heh. Here in Germany schools are really trying hard NOT to have "parent-taxis" bring their kids to school by car, as that causes a lot of traffic in front of the schools - and endangers those kids that walk on their own or ride their bikes.
Typically stopping in front of schools is frowned and where possible they try to remove stopping places right in front of the front door (e. g. by making them "school bus only")
My daughter (adult now) was walking 70m to Kindergarten (crossing a street which we trained a gazillion times with her) on her own from a few weeks before her fourth birthday. (Yes that was unusual, too, but we lived practically next door and she was so proud and happy about the trust we put into her).
In the US we would probably have gone to jail for that.
The same just for sending out the kids to play outside in the traffic-free block where we lived at that time. "Go outside" was something we told them to do.
Im in the US and live literally across the street from my kids school. He starts kindergarten in August and I told some neighborhood parent friends I was going to just let him walk himself to school while I watched from the stoop sipping coffee. A lot of them were mortified and a few thought the school wouldn't allow him in without me dropping him off. Wtf
Having kids outside will mess with flocks data set
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