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[-] Actaeon@artemis.camp 83 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Garak is a simple tailor. He resolves an impossible situation in the least tailorly way possible yet somehow maintains plausible deniability.

[-] marcos@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

I remember one episode when he is not on drugs, and starts telling truths to everybody. That one explains him.

[-] JamesStallion@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

His takedown of Ezri articulates exactly how I felt about the character shift in general

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[-] flatplutosociety@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

the least tailorly way possible

I don't know, I think he usually finds a way to thread the needle.

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[-] dalekcaan@lemm.ee 46 points 1 year ago

Alternative episode: Sisko believes that he can solve something in the normal, intended way and not a horrible, fucked up way. He solves it with baseball.

[-] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago

Jake naively and brashly tries to explore some aspect of himself for personal growth...

[-] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

The one thing that I always remember about Jake Sisko was an episode where he was trying to hide something from his dad, and at the end of the episode, dear old dad catches him trying to teach a young Ferengi how to read.

[-] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Everyone in-universe feels about Jake the way that everyone out of universe feels about Wesley.

[-] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 45 points 1 year ago

Dignity and an empty sack is worth the sack.

—Rule of Acquisition 109

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

- Quark believes that he has made some profit. He loses it.

[-] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Rom: “Well brother, I suppose the real profit was the friends we made along the way.”

Quark: “What?! No. I’m docking your pay for that.”

Rom: “hey brother, remember the time I led a strike against you, put you in a position to lose everything, got you beaten nearly to death by Nausicans, then when you finally met my demands violating Ferenghi law and risking your business license I told everyone to take the deal and I quit?”

[-] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

“Yes, but I’m not going to do anything to you about it.”

“Because you forgive me, brother?”

“No, because I’m pretty sure that light fixture over there is actually Odo.”

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[-] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

If you don’t need money, then you certainly don’t need mine.

[-] Blackout@kbin.social 45 points 1 year ago

Kai Winn shows up and ruins the episode

[-] zagaberoo@beehaw.org 22 points 1 year ago

You mean enhances the episode with her peerless villainy.

Kai Winn shows up and ruins ~~the episode~~ everyone's day.


For us, the audience, the episodes are great. For our lovely characters, not so much.

[-] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Edit: I love that for a brief moment this had a higher count, but the masses being what they are, was soon surpassed. Louise Fletcher was a master at getting people's ire.

[-] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

This woman won an Oscar, a Golden Globe, and a BAFTA for playing Nurse Ratched in One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest. She's so good at acting you literally dislike her character. She makes you uncomfortable.

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 19 points 1 year ago

My child, don't stray from the path that the Prophets have laid out for you.

[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago

I haven't yet been able to watch DS9 from beginning to end .... I've seen episodes here and there but never saw the entirety.

So my question is

What about these Garrick episodes I keep hearing about?

[-] OpenStars@kbin.social 38 points 1 year ago

From someone who did the same: there is no way to understand what DS9 is about without watching it end to end, it's just designed differently than TNG or TOS or Voyager, which were made for people to catch individual episodes and feel like they watched something. DS9 has intricate plot points that expand over an entire season, and then on into the next. I thought I knew what the show was about, but I was so very very, wonderfully wrong! Instead of it being my least favorite, I see now that it's the deepest of them all, though they all have their individual contributions, especially for the historical time they were released in.

So my advice is to wait until you have a few hours, then watch all of season 1. You'll be glad you did, and can decide when to find time to continue with season 2.

Learning about Garak will be infinitely more satisfying that way:-). He is one of the most "interesting" characters on the show, but really when you think about it, they all are.

[-] Zink@programming.dev 10 points 1 year ago

OK FINE I will watch DS9 again, convinced me.

Friggin Risa strikes again.

[-] OpenStars@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

We are sneaky that way. :-)

Somehow at the same time I also convinced myself to rewatch Babylon Five, go figure:-P.

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[-] VindictiveJudge@startrek.website 10 points 1 year ago

He is one of the most “interesting” characters on the show, but really when you think about it, they all are.

To borrow a quote from B5, "No one here is exactly what he appears."

[-] MajorHavoc@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Except Garek, obviously. He's merely a simple tailor.

I dunno, man. I heard he used to be a gardener.

[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Best reply I've ever recieved on the question. Thanks for that.

There's only two of us in the house and only one of us like watching Star Trek which makes it very hard to find time to watch on my own. We like watching TV and movies together but when your significant other doesn't like what you like, it isn't easy to watch what you want on your own time.

I think the estimate is that DS9 has 126 hours of content across all episodes ... now I just need to set aside about five days alone and without sleep to be able to watch it all.

If anything the anticipation of watching the series is very exciting for me.

Thanks again for the great response!

[-] daniyyel@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

Or if you only have 82.5 hours available, check out the episode recommendations at https://medium.com/maxistentialism-blog/star-trek-deep-space-nine-in-82-5-hours-10acde591fd2 I found it a great way to watch it in a slightly condensed form, focussing on the main themes.

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[-] zcd@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 year ago

Garak? Why, he’s just a simple tailor

[-] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 year ago

There are no Garak episodes. Why would anyone want to watch an episode about a mere tailor

[-] Rhaedas@kbin.social 28 points 1 year ago

Garak: "Do you know what the sad part is, Odo? I'm a very good tailor."

[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago

I always loved that ... in an age of replicator technology, instant manufacturing and duplication, automated systems and digital recreations ... no one ever finds it unusual that there is an individual of the species that was a former military opponent posing as an old school clothing merchant on a space station.

It would be like having a simple humble scientist from 1940s Germany working as a common rocket engineer in the American space program in the 1960s .... weird right?

To quote Lower Decks:

Mariner: I think it was the chef in the biolab with the sniper rifle that can shoot through walls.

Freeman: You always pick the chef.

Mariner: Yeah, because we have replicators. Why is there a chef? That's just shady.

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[-] cybervseas@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Yup I have to save this post. I agree with folks about Quark, however I'll add the wrinkle that the things that make Quark grow emotionally only serve too shred his dignity among the Ferengi.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Also occasionally we remember the Marquis exist and have an episode about them. Sisko comes up with basically the same solution as always, but at least it's not the Dominion.

[-] xkforce@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Quark only had that shred of dignity because he planned to sell it to the highest bidder like any good ferengi would.

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