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[-] uber_chicken@lemmy.world 42 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

This is how I feel about installing Linux. It never gives you a basic/easy install guide. It's ways an r/restoftheowl situation

EDIT - A lot of these responses are proving my point. Very easy to understand instructions if you know computers and computer terms. Not so much if you don't.

Also, people saying Linux is easier to install than Windows, totally forgetting that most people don't install Windows, it comes pre-installed, so the comparison is irrelevant

2nd EDIT - For the record, took a test and it said to try OpenSuse, Kubuntu or Zorin OS.

Going to go for Zorin OS. So if anyone has a detailed beginner guide to installing this it would be much appreciated.

[-] this_jury_is_hung@lemmy.world 43 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Download iso

Load iso onto usb.

Insert usb into machine.

Spam del and all f-keys on boot because for some reason there is no standard 'enter bios' key.

Ensure usb boot is enabled and higher priority than internal disk.

Restart.

Follow simple installer guide.

[-] uber_chicken@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

This is literally my point.

I don't know how to do a lot of these things and usually the guide doesn't explain these points.

If it's labeled 'beginners guide' it should explain how to do all these extra steps

[-] RamRabbit@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Linux Mint has a full install guide that goes into detail on every point with the click-through links. They are a real good source for people who haven't done this before.

My suggestion to people is to install Linux on a computer you don't use every day (old laptop, etc) and during installation have it be the only OS (ie, not dual boot with Windows). After awhile when you feel more comfortable, install it on your main machine. This lets you learn at whatever pace you desire.

[-] uber_chicken@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Thank you. I'll take a look at this.

And this is what I plan to do with my old gaming laptop. Do a trial run of Zorin OS, work out all the issues and then do install it on my new one and finally be rid of microslop

[-] BagelEmbezzler@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

Heads up, my partner tried Zorin OS for gaming, at the suggestion of distrochooser.de, and did not have a good time. He switched to Fedora and everything was nearly seamless after that.

[-] uber_chicken@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Good to know. Thank you.

I'll do more research and maybe go Fedora first if that's a common problem

This is also how you install windows. Theres nothing special/difficult about Linux here.

[-] uber_chicken@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

Most people don't install windows. It comes preinstalled

[-] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 points 5 days ago

Most of that is the same for installing Windows lol

[-] this_jury_is_hung@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Which parts do you not understand? I can expand on those points if needed.

[-] uber_chicken@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

I understand it. My original point was that most guides don't explain it.

Also, the guide were responding to says 'download iso'. If you google 'ISO' it does not come up with anything to do with Linux. Which proves my point that most guides are not helpful for beginners

[-] Delphia@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago

I am a huge car guy. Removing an engine MAKES SENSE to me, I understand on a fundamental level how to get the best out of an engine and drivetrain but if I have to do literally any custom wiring I farm it out to a spark wizard who can tame the magic pixies that run up and down the rainbow spaghetti. FUCK WIRING.

While I dont understand windows "fundamentally" Ive also been screwing with it since 1995, it makes sense. Linux just doesnt to me.

[-] Doomsider@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

This is what it is like when you start with Win95 instead of DOS. Windows never made sense because they buried the CLI. After you played around making .bat files learning .sh was amazing.

I even remember playing around with OS/2 which blew Windows out of the water at the time. It really is all a matter of perspective and I think starting before a GUI is so similar to your example. Linux just makes sense on a fundamental level. Like this is the way it should be.

[-] gwl 4 points 5 days ago

I think you're choosing shite distros if that's true mate

There's a like 10 page manual on the download page for all of the various ones that are using Kwin

[-] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 4 points 5 days ago

Have you tried to install arch or smth? Because otherwise i can't explain why you find it hard, as the other comment before me says, it's pretty easy

[-] Rawrosaurus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 days ago

If you're installing Fedora, then I would say it is far easier than installing Windows. I think Linux Mint and Ubuntu are roughly the same difficulty to install as Windows. Arch, Gentoo and a bunch of other distros expect you to know a bunch more and be ready to learn, those are definitely going to be hard for a first timer.

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[-] EvilHankVenture@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

I was drunk and surfing the internet on my laptop when I got frustrated with windows crashing constantly. An hour later I had installed Linux. Half of that time was backing up my files.

[-] matlag@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 days ago

You have to admit: how to change a dead light bulb:

20y ago:

  • Open the hood
  • Remove the old lighbulb
  • Install the new lightbulb
  • Close the hood
    Total: 5mins

10y ago:

  • Open the hood
  • Remove the part obstructing access to the lightbulb (4 substeps, 15mins)
  • Unmount the lightbulb block (4 more screws in tight space, none of your screwdriver fits in the space)
  • Take apart the lightbulb block (3 more screws)
  • Replace the dead bulb
  • Remount everything
    Total: 1h

Almost now:

  • Press "Open hood" on the embedded computer, enter the mechanics access password that you got from the car maker after arguing on the phone for 1h
  • Remove the protective panel above the hood compartment, that's just a piece of plastic with proprietary screws incompatible with everything in your toolbox.
  • 50 more substeps, instructions include "recommended crane to lift the engine out of the car: [specific model only sold in Guanzhou, China]", 2 persons operation 2h passed
  • Replace the whole "lightning apparatus" that's a single piece including all front lights, left and right, as it's all solded and cannot be taken apart without destroying everything. 300$ on Aliexpress with no warranty, 1000$ for the OEM model.
    Total: 8h.
[-] freijon@lemmy.zip 16 points 5 days ago

Here we go with every post somehow turning into Windows vs Linux. Lol

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

Linux, of course. But which version of Linux?

[-] heartSagan5@lemmy.zip 4 points 5 days ago

6.10 is pretty good compared to 2.4. Or are you confused about distribution versus version?

[-] Tenniswaffles 4 points 4 days ago

Technically, calling different distributions of Linux "versions of Linux" is completely accurate based on the definition of the word "version," and based on how the word is generally used in every day speech.

You're just being pedantic. Which is completely valid, I'm also being very pedantic.

[-] zephiriz@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 days ago

I use Arch BTW.

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[-] matlag@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago

How it starts: "Oh, a meme about repairing stuff! I like to repair stuff myself, let's check the comments."

How it keeps going: "Ok, I don't really know shit about cars repair, I only changed a light bulb from time to time, and once I replaced a 12V battery. Let's write a comment about what I know: installing Linux! ""This is like installing Arch with on an exotic machine..."" "

How it ends: turns out most of us match above description and answer the Linux comment...

[-] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

Ah, yes. I see you are working on an Audi.

[-] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago

Or a Volvo.

[-] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 6 points 5 days ago

the parking brake was sticking on the car I'm fixing up to put on the road

no problem, I just took apart the parking brake on my other car and removed it because it was seizing up in the cable. surely this car that's 4 years newer, slightly more economy, and from another non-american brand will be just as easy to do.

so I load up 1Aauto on YouTube as I eat dinner, and about 5 minutes into the video I'm starting to get a weird feeling because the guy is disconnecting the knuckle from the suspension to access the caliper bolt. that seems weird, I think. I pause the video to get something to drink, and I noticed that it's a one hour long video. (note: typically these videos are about 7 to 12 minutes - 1Aauto is fantastic and concise on all the videos I've watched for my other car).

anyways, I'd seen enough, so I stopped watching and went out to the car. but I was only about 15 minutes in. to be fair, at least half of that was dealing with multiple levels of escalation to torch out the brake shoes.

[-] Eh_I@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

So did they fix the cable?

[-] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago

no I haven't fixed the cable on the first car. just disengaged the parking brake so I can't pull on it and seize it up again lol

[-] Eh_I@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Sounds exhausting

[-] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago

First, remove the engine

Also known as the GMT355 service position. I've never been so thouroghly disappointed in the mechanical bits of what was otherwise a great little truck.

[-] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 3 points 4 days ago

I was so furious. In my old car, to replace the left headlight, all you needed to do was reach in and unscrew the bulb.

To replace the right headlight, you need to remove the engine.

[-] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 8 points 5 days ago

The 3.0 tdi V6 in the Audi A6 C6 is a very tight fit.

Audi also puts a biturbo V10 in the same engine compartment. Good luck to anyone who buys one. One of the coolest wagons ever made, but most jobs begin with the engine and transmission getting dropped.

[-] MML@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 days ago

They put car over engine in this case or no? cause that is so much fun

[-] Eh_I@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Dad, which end of the toaster is the engine in?

[-] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 4 points 4 days ago

Oh, you must mean a Honda Element! :p

[-] Ep1cFac3pa1m@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Recently thought I’d try to change my own camshaft position sensors. Changed my mind when I realized I’d ~~had~~ have to take the intake off to get to them.

[-] YellowParenti@lemmy.wtf 4 points 5 days ago

Had to replace the starter on my moms Toyota sequoia. Idk if it's a common design on V8, but I had to take the manifold off just to get access. Read every that I should replace the knock sensors while I'm in there. Didn't. 2 months later, check engine light for one of the sensors. FML

[-] MrNesser@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

Just had to locate the SSD drive on my motherboard, first step was removing the graphics card - yikes

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