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[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I fully acknowledge my place of privilege, but yes I’ve experienced racism. I understand it’s pretty mild relative to what others experience, but to say it doesn’t exist is just starting an argument. Feel free to say it’s mild and describe how someone else has to suffer much more serious racism, and I’ll probably agree and ask what we can do about it

And it’s not white people food, it’s specifically British food and Midwest us food that taste bland and flavorless. I don’t get it: both benefit from large immigrant population from some of the world’s greatest cuisines ……. So wtf are they eating?

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 50 points 3 days ago

This is a dumb redefinition of the word to have a narrower meaning than it should, confusing the conversation. You can just say "systemic racism".

[-] DomeGuy@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

I'm a big fan of "oppression". Blacks in America are victims of racial oppression.

"Systemic racism" doesn't solve the "this is something that is bad and happens to blacks but not whites" inference while "oppression" is both implicitly bad and not something you can do tp the dominant group.

[-] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 80 points 3 days ago

racism noun

  1. prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism by an individual, community, or institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group

lanzybear is an idiot

[-] Carmakazi@piefed.social 26 points 3 days ago

Because what they really want to say is "it's okay and even just to be maligned to white people" without having the stones to actually say that.

[-] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 16 points 3 days ago

No, just that there's a subtle difference between anti-white bigotry (which is real) and reverse-racism (which isn't). You can pull out dictionaries all you like but to put it in terms of a cute nursery rhyme, "Sticks and stones may break my bones, but socioeconomic bias by the ruling class can kill me and everyone I love."

Sorry, that doesn't rhyme very well.

[-] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 35 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

No, this is over-complicating a very simple concept all over again.

Reverse-racism doesn't exist because it's just regular old racism. White people can be the target of racism just like anyone else, but this is distinct from the fact that as a privileged social identity they may not be nearly as harmed or affected by that racism as a minority would. The fact that social power modulates our experiences of racism does not mean that some people cannot experience racial targeting.

[-] Carmakazi@piefed.social 13 points 3 days ago

What is the purpose of making the distinction if it's not "I want to be maligned to white people and not be called racist?"

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[-] BoosBeau@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Just end it with: "...with loans." Then it rhymes. <3

[-] Darcranium@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

This argument has been going on for 60 years, by historians and educators, black and white, who are much smarter than us... Here's a reddit comment I found that detailed the argument well (paraphrasing)

the purpose of "power + prejudice" was to move discourse away from the idea of being racist as a personal failing, and instead focus on structural oppression and the material reality of minority groups.

Basically liberal society largely seems to have conceived racism as 'being irrationally mean', but for people with a materialist anti-racist perspective, that definition isn't productive or insightful and the lack of material, tangible progress for black people post-civil rights made it clear that there needed to be more focus on power dynamics and historical context to combat racism.

Beverly Tatum's work offers an informed and compelling perspective on the matter

[-] DomeGuy@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

I reject the idea that a sixty year old redefinition that was followed by a rise in white resentment was done by people "smarter" than any of us.

[-] rockSlayer 10 points 3 days ago

The sooner you accept that racism is about power, the better you will understand it. The dictionary definition is not adequate for defining racism.

[-] Cypher@aussie.zone 32 points 3 days ago

The dictionary definition is not adequate for defining racism.

The majority of people agree with how the dictionary defines racism and that’s how it is used in common language and legal contexts.

It is a vocal minority of absolute fools who insist it’s about systems and power and not the discrimination that everyone else so clearly recognises it as.

[-] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 days ago

You people throw the word "majority" around a lot. I'm whiter than you are and I can acknowledge that there's a dimension of subtext in the word racism related to power structures. "Me and my drinking buddies" does not constitute a majority.

[-] charokol@lemmy.zip 19 points 3 days ago

If you’re trying to talk to people don’t define the word to inherently include systemic power structures, then you’re never going to get anywhere by refusing to use language in a way that they understand. There’s no harm in specifying “systemic racism“ if the people you’re talking don’t include “systemic“ in their idiolectic baseline definition of racism. But just telling a person they can’t experience racism when their definition of “racism“ is simply analogous to prejudice will only make them defensive and hostile

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[-] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

How about you explain in depth what you mean by that instead of being really vague and condescending. Can you do that? Can you explain in depth and with precise language what you mean by that? If you actually have knowledge you want other to also have, how about you share it?

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[-] nullspace@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

This is the exact kind of post racists like to share in their own communities to show how "the woke agenda" victimizes them.

[-] Cypher@aussie.zone 44 points 3 days ago

Hate to be a descriptivist but no, you don’t just get to change what a word means and then get mad because people are using it the correct way.

Racism is discrimination based on race, no matter how many arts majors screech otherwise.

[-] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 17 points 3 days ago
[-] Cypher@aussie.zone 6 points 3 days ago

……..yes that’s what I said and that’s generally the sort of misinformed muppet spouting this nonsense I have encountered.

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[-] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 19 points 3 days ago

Well, ackshually 🤓

Seriously though, that's not the definition most people use, and you're never going to change minds through pedantry. Also, people like this always seem to be colossal losers.

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[-] polysexualstick@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Just going to leave this old but gold video here for all the people in the comments: https://youtu.be/dw_mRaIHb-M?is=OpX9nrxIZBss7HCe

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

This guys does it well while keeping it funny.

I still disagree with the absolutism that opens an opportunity for people to get defensive, but the comedian focuses more on the scope, the seriousness, the disparities and extremes. And that’s only the well known and widely agreed issues

Maybe I’m generalizing from my own reactions too much but this is a great approach to communicating the issue

[-] Malyca@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 days ago

People always want things black and white, they want everything to fit in neat little boxes and that's just how reality works.

[-] chortle_tortle@mander.xyz 6 points 3 days ago

I suppose it's a sign of Lemmy's popularity that it's now finding the whiny white redditors pissing and moaning about being called cracker.

[-] Nouvellalia@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

"We're the strongest race!"

"Argh the sunlight!"
"Argh spices!"
"Argh a word that has no violence behind it!"

[-] vzqq 2 points 2 days ago

Btw I was this week year old when I realized “cracker” means “slave owner”. As in, whip cracker.

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