Why not replace McConnell anyways and let them prove otherwise?
Because Kentucky law says Beshear would have to call an election so a Republican would get in anyway. But that law might be unconstitutional from what I've read. But also is it a fight worth spending political capital and legal fees on when realistically it won't change anything and there'll be a new Republican Kentucky senator in 6 months?
I thought special elections were trending less MAGA these days.
Its still Kentucky.
Republican is a Republican is a Republican. The corpse is probably still a better option.
The corpse is basically in a permanent "present" vote, or even less then that? Because it can delay quorum?
McConnell's absence is not affecting quorum, but it is one less R vote for as long as he's out.
I thought Kentucky law said Beshear could appoint a replacement. And that's why the GOPers are dragging their heels till August 3.
No. Kentucky law specifically says Beshear cannot appoint a replacement. But he can call a special election, which might have different candidates than the general election for his seat in November. The August 3 date is floating around as the deadline after which Beshear can't call that election.
From what I understood, there are opposing laws in conflict with one another, one stating Beshear can appoint a replacement directly, and one stating he cannot. What he could do is go forward with an appointment, but then he will be caught up in legal proceedings anyway until the litigation on which law is binding can be made. So it will be a bit of a stalemate anyway.
I am likely to be incorrect in my understanding, but I remember reading that somewhere.
I think the state house passed the special election law, but didn't change the constitution, which still says 'appointment by governor' - maybe for "state offices" though?
a Republican would get in anyway
That Republican might be Thomas Massie, though, which they REALLY want to avoid at any cost.
Plus new Senators need to be sworn in which I'm sure if a dem won the special election the republican controlled senate would just simply not swear them in.
Cool, let's fuckin make them do that bullshit then.
I'm tired of going "well if we fight back, they'll just fight back". Like yeah, they are actively fighting us. We are in a fight. We're being punched in the face. If we punch them, they will punch us. If we don't punch them, they will still punch us.
I'm tired of being punched. I want to punch.
And if McConnell DOESNT give an Update before August 3rd then Beshear will send ANOTHER Angry Letter!
Even the article says this is likely to not do anything. Its time for the people of Kentucky to burst into every hospital with their cameras ready. Demand they see their senator is cognizant.
This is just the bare minimum that should have been demanded weeks ago and honestly he should have just started the appointment process by now, assumed he's in a Weekend at Bernie's situation, played the Republican lowball game and let the political chips fall where they may.
He's not hospitalized in Kentucky, he's in the DC area.
Oof, I even just read that and still got dumb mad.
Mitch is feeling much better lately.
Went for a hike today:
Then they visited Paris:
And stopped by Euro Disney:
Honestly at this point I think the governor should just declare Mitch to be either deceased or unable to serve and start the process of appointing a successor. Then if Mitch's team challenges him, say look I want to be wrong please produce the Senator for an in person visit or appearance of any kind, or shut up.
Because if you strip away the politics, McConnell is there to represent the interests of his constituents. If he is unwilling or unable to do so then he should be replaced.
Yeah, there's no excuse to not do a video conference in this day and age. Mitch could even stay in his bed, or whatever turtles sleep in.
There's like 20 things he could do all the way from a public appearance down to simply releasing medical records. He's doing none of them.
When evaluating such things, I look at motivation. I put myself in the other person's shoes, and ask what set of circumstances or motivations would cause me to act as I am?
Take for example the lot of people who make outlandish claims about hover propulsion, free energy from drinking water, etc.
I put myself in those shoes, and I say 'okay, I just built a device that turns water into power. What do I do?'
Most likely I patent the thing, build 50 of them, and send them off to research labs for evaluation. When everyone concludes my thing works, I start licensing the patents for $billions and I retire.
On the other hand, let's say I invent a water-to-power machine but it doesn't work. What do I do? I act sketchy, try to appeal to people without much sense, try to get their money.
Which one more matches the behavior of the person advertising the free energy machine? The second one? Then I guess it's probably bullshit.
Same deal here. If I was McConnell or his staff and I was alive and was going to return to the Senate, I'd post a video, I'd release medical records, I'd do something to reassure my constituents that I will continue to represent them.
On the other hand if I was a political director for a dead or brain-dead or almost-dead Senator, and I didn't want the opposing Governor to appoint a successor, I'd do whatever it took to delay the world realizing that the Senator won't be returning ever. Delay, Deny, Defend. Then once the deadline passes, we announce the Senator has 'made an unfortunate turn for the worse' and no longer is able to return. And our defense against fraud is someone we pay off to swear that when our brain-dead comatose Senator was asked if he'd return, his eyelids twitched twice for yes.
Imagine not showing up to your job for 43 days and even the governor is demanding that you do something, but you’re just like “nah” and nothing happens to you and you keep your job.
#nokings?
Well all you have to do is work hard enough to buy your own lawless reality. They’re living the American dream, I think?
Yet, the Democratic governor of Kentucky continues to be a chicken-shit coward. He has the power to end this now, but he's too much of a coward to do anything. He can simply declare the seat vacant by death or incapacitation and call for a special election. If McConnell still walks among the living, then he can show up in court to prove his health quite easily. It would be the quickest court case ever.
This is squarely on the hands of that sniveling coward Governor Beshear.
He can simply declare the seat vacant by death or incapacitation and call for a special election.
Can he actually?
Waaaah, but what if we caaaan't? What if it doesn't work? What if the courts just overrule it?
Who fucking cares if it doesn't work? Try it anyway and quit being a god-damn child.
Let's stop this limp-wristed, self-defeating, surrender-in-advance attitude. Here's an idea. Try having a god damned backbone. Try it anyway and see if it sticks. As long as you have a half-decent legal theory, give it a go.
Liberals are shiftless cowards. Republicans will happily try a dozen things out, expecting only one or two of them to hold up in court. Democrats second-guess themselves into paralysis.
Yep, completely gutless/meaningless: "If the Senator is unable to respond for either of those or other conditions, consider this letter a demand for his Senate staff to be honest and transparent with the people of Kentucky."
It should be a specific date and time when he'll start the replacement process with a specific date and time when he expects the new person to be sworn in.
I wouldn't like to be the guy that claimed mitch mcconnell was dead and then having to recuse myself because he comes to the court.
And I would get laughed at in the internet
While the language in Beshear’s letter is strong, it likely won’t do anything. McConnell, like every member of Congress, can essentially go on paid medical leave for as long as he wants. The fact that our elected officials don’t really have to prove that they can walk, talk, and think coherently—while we still pay them—is disgraceful. Maybe Beshear should just pay McConnell a visit himself, and bring a camera crew with him.
Call for the special election anyway.
If he’s alive he’s gotta say something to stop it.
It's fucking infuriating that they haven't done this. If the parties were reversed, there would be no kid gloves.
Isn't there only a week left until it's too late for a special election? If the Republicans are covering up his death they're not going to give in when they're so close.
He's passed on! This senator is no more! He has ceased to be! He's expired and gone to meet his maker! He's a stiff! Bereft of life, he rests in peace! If they hadn't nailed him to the hospital bed he'd be pushing up the daisies! His metabolic processes are now history! He's off the twig! He's kicked the bucket, he's shuffled off his mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the choir invisible!! HE IS AN EX-SENATOR!!
They'll update on August 3rd to avoid the special election
Guys. Guys. I've got it. This is poetry.
Andy Beshear is a little bitch. Bust in there with your goons and end this fucking play already.
I am reminded of the situation around Dianne Feinstein in 2023, who held on to her seat until her death, even though rumors were swirling that she had dementia that was only getting worse. She actually gave power of attorney over her personal affairs to her daughter a few months before her death, while still serving as Senator.
(But, even through all that she still had lucid moments, and actually voted to prevent a government shutdown just before she died, which is more than Mitch has done recently.)
We really need some way to get these people to step aside when the time comes.
Kentucky Gov sends sternly worded letter.
I would like to think he may be setting up everyone involved in the cover up of McConnell’s death to be complicit in organized fraud. I want to see arrests made for this bullshit.
Stop demanding shit and just replace him. If he can't prove he's alive he's not fit to "serve".
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