1093
Just a reminder (lemmy.world)
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[-] CptOblivius@lemmy.world 8 points 16 hours ago

Don't let perfect be the enemy of good. Fyi... vote in fing primaries, that is the only way to fix the kinda bad side.

[-] frisbird@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 hours ago

vote in fing primaries, that is the only way to fix the kinda bad side.

It's not how we got Women's Suffrage nor Civil Rights.

[-] Bgugi@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

More like dont let mediocre be the enemy of terrible.

[-] MorPolitics@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

If Republicans vote for a slightly less damaged economy but end up with Zionist infiltration, it makes their side look bad. Similarly, if Democrats push through free healthcare & gay rights but also incur Zionist infiltration, it makes their side look bad as well. In this kind of system, winning is like losing if you cannot remove the root problem.

[-] AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml 4 points 14 hours ago

Posts about blaming a minuscule minority of voters are specifically designed to encourage people to not look for the causes of rising fascism.

Keeping people distracted and attacking their socialists allies is the only way Democrats can continue to move further to the right and join Trump's new "War on the Extreme Left".

If you don't see the connection, you have a problem.

[-] FoxtrotDeltaTango@sh.itjust.works 3 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Yes, but the Democratic Party can be forced into becoming more left leaning and more progressive via primaries

More progressives and democratic socialists are winning primaries and elections

The corpo “centrists” are losing

[-] frisbird@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 hours ago

Women's Suffrage was won without voting. Civil Rights was won with turnout among black people between 25% and 7% per state. It's not voting that moves things in the right direction.

And remember. Both the Ds and the Rs had to give ground to prevent the civil rights movement from getting out of their control. As soon as they had it appeased, both the Ds and Rs co-architected the war on drugs and heavy "anti-crime" work to criminalize black people. It's not a coincidence that prison population skyrocketed immediately after the civil rights era, targeted black people primarily, and haven't come down since regardless of who is in office.

[-] AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 hours ago

Corpos aren't loosing, they are growing in power with rising wealth inequality. Money is power. Think of every dollar they have at their disposal as a tiny little soldier running around and whispering in people's ears. They are backed by itty bitty generals who are the smartest people on the planet, paid the highest wages to come up with the best most foolprofest brainwash / propaganda / public relation / talking points / advertising imaginable to manipulate people. You think you have a chance against that??? Is this fucking Sparta, three hundred vs one billion?

Even more money can be poured into elections now. You don't even have time to protest because you don't have the money. Any they long figured out how to game protests to make them harmless anyway.

Look at how the dems gamed the system to prevent a Sanders presidency. Not even a lukewarm social democrat could they allow against Trump. And Obama, the corporatist of dem all is still being worshiped. Every time I see posts blaming this small faction or the other for the second Trump presidency I cringe. It's like you're in a prison for your mind. The election shouldn't even have been close. No, Trump should have been in jail. Put the blame where it fucking belongs.

YOU DO NOT LIVE IN A DEMOCRACY. People do not even know what is real and what isn't any more. The only good thing is that their laws and state violence are illegitimate, and you are under no moral obligation to follow them anymore, except self preservation. Zeroth law of robotics is in full effect. Civil disobedience or whatever. Organize locally and offline.

PS: Sorry for the rant. Sucks to live in interesting times.

[-] AlfalFaFail@lemmy.ml 6 points 16 hours ago

Which side thinks that food, medicine, and shelter are a human right and not just access to them is a right? I'll always vote for that side.

load more comments (3 replies)
[-] MorPolitics@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

Both sides are bad" is true, though. The Democrats and Republicans are infiltrated by Zionists. The reality that both sides are bad could also motivate people to vote for a third party.

[-] itsBlorpinTime@feddit.online 3 points 15 hours ago

Literally why Israel got trump in office

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

Broke: Both sides are bad.

Woke: Governments are bad.

Bespoke: Nations are bad.

[-] frisbird@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 hours ago

Bespoke: Nations are bad.

You mean states. Nations are just groupings of people with shared birth (Latin - nati) who inhabit a shared area of the planet and coexist through various ties to each other.

[-] Adalast@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

I have been making sure my newly or soon to be 18 year old stepchildren and nieces and nephews all understand that voting is not just who is in Washington, but also who is deciding what happens right around us. Local elections are so much more important than I ever really understood at their age.

[-] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 16 hours ago

Both sides are bad, but one side is considerably less bad and is not openly racist and fascist.

[-] DaedalousIlios@pawb.social 7 points 20 hours ago

The fact that this is still a thing is baffling to me. I am, by no means, a fan of Establishment Democrats. But this is why we have primaries. We can walk and chew gum at the same time; vote for progressives in the primaries, vote agaist the fascists at the same time.

And while we're at it, between primaries, we criticize the people we elect because we demand better of them. And we warn them that they will lose to a progressive next primary if they don't find the plot again.

This is not very hard. We can't just note vote if we want to escapw the jaws of fascism without a civil war. We don't have to like establishment democrats, but right now electing a do-nothing is objective improvement. It's voting to get more time. And if the narrative for the democratic party is a progressive narrative, then progressive candidates can drag them kicking and screaming further to the left where they either find some values, or we send them to an early retirement next primary. We call this process "democracy."

And I don't wanna hear shit about it being "rigged." If Viktor Orbon couldn't hold on to an openly rigged system, the DNC doesn't have that much more control either! Half the fucking country doesn't vote. If everyone did, they couldn't ignore the mandate. And so we circle back to the meme above: if you're discouraging people from voting, you are part of the problem. Get them informed, get them motivated, get them registered, make a plan, and go with them if you have to! This is the easiest call to action we will get. If we fail to meet it, the next one will be a lot more painful for the whole world.

[-] frisbird@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 hours ago

Nothing in history shows that what you're saying is true. Women's Suffrage was won without the vote, by definition. Civil Rights was won with black voter turnout at an abysmal 25% to 7% depending on the state. When the Civil Rights movement forced concessions from the government, it was bi-partisan. And when the government redoubled their efforts of white supremacist dominance through the war on drugs and racialized mass incarceration, it was a bi-partisan effort. Nothing has ever been won because more people voted in primaries. Nothing has ever been won because do-nothings were voted in to buy time.

[-] Bacano@lemmy.world 6 points 18 hours ago

The dnc was sued for rigging the primaries against the public mandate that wanted Sanders.

They argued in court that they had no responsibility to provide fair elections as they are a private company. They won.

[-] SwissArmyKazoo@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago

Same with third party voters.

Jill Stein is a talentless goon and a complete commie tyrant.

[-] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 4 points 16 hours ago

Commie tyrant Hahaha?

DAE red scare propaganda?

[-] lemonwood@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

This is a misunderstand. It's not about voting. It never was. It's about organizing.

Sure vote for harm reduction. Yes, it can slow things down a bit temporarily, but don't think it'll save your life. Both parties are genocidal fascists who will continue to escalate war and state violence. From a capitalist standpoint, fascism is correct and necessary. Profits have fallen too low, democracy is no longer profitable, no matter which party is in charge. The billionaires need living standards to drop much lower. But in a democracy, people would not be willing to accept that, so they need to be disciplined violently.

Democrats, just like Republicans will come for your loved ones, arrest communists, continue imperialist wars and genocide, shut down strikes and unions, militarize the police. Simply because Democrats are capitalist and within capitalism, fascism is the next logical step. Not for ideological reasons, but because of real material economic facts. The facts demand fascism. Democrats will adapt or cease to be Democrats.

When Nazi fascism was defeated in Europe, it wasn't by voting for the lesser fascists. The only way to save democracy is to organize real resistance, that's able to enforce demands.

If you have limited capacity to contribute and organize, don't waste your time campaigning for the Democrats. Vote for them, if it makes sense in your state, but that's just one day. If you have any energy to spare the rest of the year: talk to your neighbors and coworkers about real solutions. For example general strikes and anti-fascist community self defense. Learn communist theory, start a reading group. Join a Marxist org.

[-] Doomsider@lemmy.world 8 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

How was fascism defeated in Europe again?

Let's retrace what happened because I think there may be some confusion here. Nazism was not unique to Germany nor was it the only form of fascism. Nazism was very popular in the US because of the strong white nationalism and eugenics we practiced at the time (and still do). Hitler himself admired the US and credited the ongoing Native American genocide as his inspiration for the Holocaust.

Germany was pretty fucked after WWI and it's economy was in a free fall from massive inflation due to printing money to pay restitution as decided in the treaty of Versailles. This is where US industrialists like Ford stepped in. He brought his technology and built entire factories in Germany. He said the Germans can keep them and make all the profit from them.

The wealthy of the US helped bail out Germany and breathe economic life back into the nation. Without this help Germany would have never been able to rebuild and attack Europe again. So to be clear a white nationalist nation who disliked the Jews helped Germany rebuild its industry which set into motion WWII.

Hitler's original plan was to kick all the Jews out. He sent diplomatic envoys around to see if nations would take in the Jews. The wealthy US industrialists caught wind of his and started lobbying the US and the rest of the world to not take the Jews in. They stroked existing anti-Jewish sentiments successfully and ensured no one would take the Jews in. This action is what lead to the final solution.

Germany had a couple of problems first though. One was they had no way to track the Jews. Que IBM to the rescue. Those numbers tattooed on Jew's arms were developed as a census system with help of IBM computing power. The other major problem was the logistics of emptying the ghettos as part of the final solution. Germany needed helped and once again IBM obliged by figuring out how many Jews could be loaded onto trains and sent to the death camps daily without getting backed up.

When the US showed up in Europe at the end of WWII to take credit for what Russia had done they did not defeat Fascism. They had helped create it to begin with. The US continues to spread fascism around the world after this. You see Fascism was never defeated. Fascism survived and eventually swallowed the entire world with the help of the US.

[-] AlfalFaFail@lemmy.ml 3 points 16 hours ago
[-] Doomsider@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

That was a interesting essay for sure. I am a bit more critical based on the evidence. The US was always fascist rather than just adopting fascism because it just made sense when choosing sides during the Cold War.

[-] AlfalFaFail@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 hours ago

How do you define fascism that just isn't conservative and imperialist?

[-] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works 3 points 18 hours ago

There's a certain amount of self reflection and questioning that's worthwhile and sometimes it definitely is the lesser of two evils when voting. I wouldn't say any political party or system is perfect, therefore there's still valid and worthwhile criticisms to be made. It would be nice to see choice ranked voting and to officially end gerrymandering.

load more comments
view more: next ›
this post was submitted on 25 Jul 2026
1093 points (100.0% liked)

Political Memes

12230 readers
2643 users here now

Welcome to politcal memes!

These are our rules:

1) Be civilJokes are okay, but don’t intentionally harass or disturb any member of our community. Sexism, racism and bigotry are not allowed. Good faith argumentation only. No posts discouraging people to vote or shaming people for voting.

2) No misinformationDon’t post any intentional misinformation. When asked by mods, provide sources for any claims you make.

3) Posts should be memesRandom pictures do not qualify as memes. Relevance to politics is required.

4) No bots, spam or self-promotionFollow instance rules, ask for your bot to be allowed on this community.

5) No AI generated content.Content posted must not be created by AI with the intent to mimic the style of existing images

founded 3 years ago
MODERATORS