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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/16451158
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this post was submitted on 25 Jul 2026
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This is a misunderstand. It's not about voting. It never was. It's about organizing.
Sure vote for harm reduction. Yes, it can slow things down a bit temporarily, but don't think it'll save your life. Both parties are genocidal fascists who will continue to escalate war and state violence. From a capitalist standpoint, fascism is correct and necessary. Profits have fallen too low, democracy is no longer profitable, no matter which party is in charge. The billionaires need living standards to drop much lower. But in a democracy, people would not be willing to accept that, so they need to be disciplined violently.
Democrats, just like Republicans will come for your loved ones, arrest communists, continue imperialist wars and genocide, shut down strikes and unions, militarize the police. Simply because Democrats are capitalist and within capitalism, fascism is the next logical step. Not for ideological reasons, but because of real material economic facts. The facts demand fascism. Democrats will adapt or cease to be Democrats.
When Nazi fascism was defeated in Europe, it wasn't by voting for the lesser fascists. The only way to save democracy is to organize real resistance, that's able to enforce demands.
If you have limited capacity to contribute and organize, don't waste your time campaigning for the Democrats. Vote for them, if it makes sense in your state, but that's just one day. If you have any energy to spare the rest of the year: talk to your neighbors and coworkers about real solutions. For example general strikes and anti-fascist community self defense. Learn communist theory, start a reading group. Join a Marxist org.
How was fascism defeated in Europe again?
Let's retrace what happened because I think there may be some confusion here. Nazism was not unique to Germany nor was it the only form of fascism. Nazism was very popular in the US because of the strong white nationalism and eugenics we practiced at the time (and still do). Hitler himself admired the US and credited the ongoing Native American genocide as his inspiration for the Holocaust.
Germany was pretty fucked after WWI and it's economy was in a free fall from massive inflation due to printing money to pay restitution as decided in the treaty of Versailles. This is where US industrialists like Ford stepped in. He brought his technology and built entire factories in Germany. He said the Germans can keep them and make all the profit from them.
The wealthy of the US helped bail out Germany and breathe economic life back into the nation. Without this help Germany would have never been able to rebuild and attack Europe again. So to be clear a white nationalist nation who disliked the Jews helped Germany rebuild its industry which set into motion WWII.
Hitler's original plan was to kick all the Jews out. He sent diplomatic envoys around to see if nations would take in the Jews. The wealthy US industrialists caught wind of this and started lobbying the US and the rest of the world to not take the Jews in. They stroked existing anti-Jewish sentiments successfully and ensured no one would take the Jews in. This action is what lead to the final solution.
Germany had a couple of problems first though. One was they had no way to track the Jews. Que IBM to the rescue. Those numbers tattooed on Jew's arms were developed as a census system with help of IBM computing power. The other major problem was the logistics of emptying the ghettos as part of the final solution. Germany needed helped and once again IBM obliged by figuring out how many Jews could be loaded onto trains and sent to the death camps daily without getting backed up.
When the US showed up in Europe at the end of WWII to take credit for what Russia had done they did not defeat Fascism. They had helped create it to begin with. The US continues to spread fascism around the world after this. You see Fascism was never defeated. Fascism survived and eventually swallowed the entire world with the help of the US.
To flesh the last statement out.
The U.S. Did Not Defeat Fascism in WWII, It Discreetly Internationalized It
That was a interesting essay for sure. I am a bit more critical based on the evidence. The US was always fascist rather than just adopting fascism because it just made sense when choosing sides during the Cold War.
How do you define fascism that just isn't conservative and imperialist?
Fascism = Bad right!? J/k
Fascism takes many forms and uses many rhetorics. For me, I look for the signs like hyper-capitalism, wealth gaps, and the majority of policy written by/for the wealthy. This combined with feverish nationalism, obsession with security, militarism, scapegoating, and control of media.
As Mussolini put it, fascism is just corporatism. I think modern day corporatocracy is the evolution of corporatism. So if your county is ruled by business interests, like most of the world, you probably are living in a country with fascist tendencies. Fascism is also a scale where you can see nations like the US with lots of fascism and places like Norway with much less fascism.