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[-] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 92 points 2 weeks ago

Did the lady try to talk to her neighbor first?

OOP does not clarify.

But.

I have seen what happens when you put cardboard boxes whole in the cardboard recycling bin: it's "full" immediately!
I have also seen people who do not remove the styrofoam filling before dumping them.
Or don't even bother putting them inside the bin, just leaving it by the side.
All that gets my blood boiling. This casual carelessness because "it's trash, so what?"

Again, the first step should always be to point this out to newcomers, but.

The fact that OOP basically says "cardboard is nothing" and says they'd burn it instead tells me they just might be the asshole here.

[-] Junkers_Klunker@feddit.dk 18 points 2 weeks ago

Yea, I got a slight tingle here of OOP not being entirely without a fault on this one. But then again, my flavour of the ‘tism makes me meticulously fold and compact all of my trash to avoid any wasted space.

[-] fireweed@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

OOP didn't bother to remove the address stickers, a minor effort that would have protected them from this very situation, and if they didn't bother to do even that...

That said, going straight to the legal system in this situation is also an asshole move. Definitely a case of "we're probably not getting the whole story, but how would we even know?"

[-] Stitch0815@feddit.org 13 points 2 weeks ago

Who tf removes adress stickers before getting rid of trash in their own trashbin

The people in your house already know where you live and whats your name

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[-] Echolynx@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 weeks ago

The neighbor should've just talked to OP first.

But yeah, how hard is it for people to flatten their cardboard? Dare I say, it is even fun sometimes getting to stomp on it.

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[-] aldhissla@piefed.world 74 points 2 weeks ago

9/10 times it's a legit problem, the neighbour would just ask you nicely. If some nutjob writes you an invoice, you can safely ignore it. Going through someone's trash and photographing indentifying information on the other hand is a felony, so OOP might've just found a way to finance that lawyer for themselves.

But this is one side of a story in which the neighbour went from 0 to lawyer with no warning and OOP (presumed innocent and tidy) is apparently fed up with the entire country because of that. Seems to me pretty escalatory by the only side presenting the narrative.

So giving the benefit of the doubt to the othe side: if you are a messy tenant and do not listen to reason, good riddance to you.

[-] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 29 points 2 weeks ago

If some nutjob writes you an invoice, you can safely ignore it

Disagree: You cannot safely ignore this, because it is not a normal invoice and not some primitive nutjob.

There is a lawyer behind it, and this lawyer wants to get paid. Something that does not go away by itself.

[-] gajustempus@feddit.org 41 points 2 weeks ago

It is just a lawyer - they can ask and demand anything they like. If it's unjustified (like here for example) just ignore it.

If it's something from COURT, you HAVE to answer it. But lawyers - don't give them more credit than they deserve

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[-] baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

you can ignore it if it isn't a court mandated order. the lawyer wants to be paid, but they don't need to be paid by OOP. they're perfectly fine being paid by the harassing neighbor, which is what will happen eventually. there are always some of these harassment cases, and generally they go away if you just ignore them because there is no legal backing. the lawyer just scares you into compliance and if you pay that gets seen as an admission of guilt. there are several types of legal letters but most of them don't require responding at all.

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[-] wador@lemmy.zip 15 points 2 weeks ago

I'm with you on this. Nothing screams entitlement more than throwing uncut/unfolded boxes in the bin.

[-] snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 weeks ago

Does Germany have felonies?

[-] Thorry@feddit.org 58 points 2 weeks ago

We all know OP didn't fold his boxes at all and just stuffed them in there, blocking up the system. Every time the lady wanted to use the paper container it would be blocked and she would have to reach in there and remove all of his shit. Then properly collapse the boxes and put them back. OP has also been told multiple times to fix his shit and there is a sign above the paper container as well.

The exact same thing happened where I work. Some idiot would just stuff an unfolded box in the paper container and would block it for everyone.

[-] creamfresh@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago

that's just ragefiction, none of this is mentioned in the og post

[-] Thorry@feddit.org 20 points 2 weeks ago

So we should take everything OP says at face value, even though that seems like it's pretty insane?

[-] creamfresh@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago

You and me both know that people like the old lady in the post exist. I'd also assume that someone who collects compost separately from restmüll will probably fold their boxes in a rational manner.

[-] hessenjunge@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

If you think that people exist that DIRECTLY run to a lawyer over cardboard boxes you also believe in the existence of Nigerian princes making you a millionaire for just a few bucks.

Edit: Since people can't be bothered to read properly I highlighted the KEY WORD in the above sentence.

[-] EggInDisguise 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Or maybe you just don't meet many people.

My grandmother tried to sue a neighbor over leaves falling from the neighbor's tree.

[-] Jako302@feddit.org 4 points 2 weeks ago

Your grandma might have had a chance in court depending on the exact situation.

If there are tree branches growing over her property, then most of the time the neighbor is forced to cut them after is is notified about it.

If its just a few leaves getting blown over by the wind then chances are rather slim, but its still possible she would win. Depends on your jurisdiction, here it has to be a severe impairment of her ability to use the property.

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[-] Lemmchen@feddit.org 4 points 2 weeks ago

Ah yes, we all "know", because the terrible neighbour bogeyman in our heads must be real, how could it not? /s

[-] 5ibelius9insterberg@feddit.org 42 points 2 weeks ago

„Wir sind hier nicht in Vietnam! Wir sind in Baden-Württemberg, da gibt es Regeln!“

[-] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 35 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Als jemand, dem es vor zwei Wochen fast den Fingernagel umgeklappt hat beim Versuch, die "gefalteten" Kartons der Nachbarn in die Tonne zu drücken, habe ich absolutes Verständnis mit der alten Dame. In meiner vorherigen Wohnung hatten wir auch eine Person, der das vorherige Zerkleinern der Kartons sehr wichtig war und was soll ich sagen? Sie hatte Recht. Es passt viel mehr in die Tonne, wenn alle es vorher klein machen. Das bedeutet weniger Nebenkosten für alle. Seitdem bin ich auch Kartonagen-Alman.

[-] Don_alForno@feddit.org 27 points 2 weeks ago

Man spricht im Allgemeinen erstmal miteinander, bevor man Anwälte, Polizei und Ähnliche einschaltet.

[-] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago

Stimme ich natürlich zu. Mein "Verständnis" bezieht sich auf die Frustration der alten Dame.

[-] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 2 weeks ago

Altpapier Entsorgung ist fast überall kostenlos, btw

(Ändert jetzt nichts, wenn die Tonne voll ist, aber teurer wird's nicht)

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[-] 5715@feddit.org 32 points 2 weeks ago

Krieg, Krieg bleibt immer gleich

[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago

Point number one: throwing boxes into the bin with your address labels on is fucking dumb.

Point number two: throwing boxes into the paper bin without flattening then is also fucking dumb.

Obviously, if that's all the guy did (provided this story has any basis in reality at all) sending a letter from a lawyer is totally over the top and in no way justified. I also doubt any lawyer would stoop to that, but then, they're lawyers, so there's that. On top of that, unless that neighbour owns the property, they have absolutely no business trying to enforce any rules there.

All in all, either there's more to this story, or OP met an actual crazy person. These exist everywhere and their craziness manifests in a variety of ways. Sending legal letters is one of the less scary ones, if you ask me.

[-] Johanno@feddit.org 17 points 2 weeks ago

Why should I have to pull off the DHL stickers of my cart board boxes before I throw it into the trash???

[-] barnacul@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago

Because then anyone who is able to come to your house can just find your address for free

[-] Enkrod@feddit.org 14 points 2 weeks ago

If they come to my house they will be at my address and if they look at the doorbell panel they will have my name with first initial... Why go through the trash for that??

[-] needanke@feddit.org 7 points 2 weeks ago
[-] Enkrod@feddit.org 6 points 2 weeks ago

oops, yes, that joke went straight over my head xD

[-] creamfresh@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Sheesh good thing then there is no panel with neatly arranged clear names written on it next to the door or something.

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[-] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 21 points 2 weeks ago

Und? Wie hat OP denn die Kartons gefaltet? Ich will ein Fotobeweis, also die Chancen sind eher gering bei der Beschreibung der Nachbarin. Aber villeicht isser ja doch das Arsch?!

[-] manxu@piefed.social 8 points 2 weeks ago

Die Kartons waren wahrscheinlich nicht gefaltet?

[-] SapphireSphinx@feddit.org 14 points 2 weeks ago

Sein Fehler war halt nach BW zu ziehen. Ländle of the Kehrwoche, home of the Spießbürger. Machste nix. /s

[-] bob_lemon@feddit.org 19 points 2 weeks ago

Anzeige ist natürlich übertrieben, aber unzerkleinerte Kartons in die gemeinsame Tonne zu tun ist schon ziemlich unsozial.

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[-] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 13 points 2 weeks ago

Just for explanation: The lady has probably not spent money on a lawyer. The lawyer demands it from you as the "guilty" party (presumed guilty, because no court is involved so far).

If you want to save some money, google for the term "modifizierte Unterlassungserklärung". Hopefully you find good instructions there.

[-] kossa@feddit.org 4 points 2 weeks ago

No, she's in a Mieterschutzverein. They'll pay the lawyers for the most stupid shit and somehow don't care about how like 0.01% of their members are racking up 95% of their lawyer costs for insane reasons ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.

[-] voodoocode@feddit.org 9 points 2 weeks ago

Ist Reddit nicht nur noch alles Bots zum Ragebaiten?

[-] arcine@jlai.lu 9 points 2 weeks ago

This is one of the many reasons I always destroy anything bearing my name before disposal.

[-] jenesaisquoi@feddit.org 4 points 2 weeks ago

Just fold your boxes like a decent person. It's not hard. Have some consideration for your fellow humans.

[-] turdas@suppo.fi 4 points 2 weeks ago

That post is AI slop by the way.

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