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submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by lyya to c/AntiAI

Hi. I'm neurodivergent and I love computers. I probably emotionally depend on them a lot besides other interests like art. FOSS and Linux world felt like home. I do not use(as little as possible) any proprietary(or related to AI in any way) software. I feel raw disgust towards those. I feel like all stability in life is gone now that Linus has AI "brainrot". What can I even do? What can others do? "Fork it"? "Rewrite it"? Okay, I'll wait like 35 years. But being serious I feel lost. BSD family doesn't feel like a solution for me. Everything else is experimental at best. I'm certainly not touching Windows or Mac ever again. Should I consider running something like older Debian exclusively to at least "conserve" myself until solution comes up or things change? I almost never post, but I ask you, the digital void, for advice. I don't want to feel this way.

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[-] Eat_Your_Paisley@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

They're not vibe coding the kernel, did anyone actually read the mail from the LKML?

[-] Mac@mander.xyz 8 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Why would i read the thoughts of anyone who isn't anti-AI

Linux isn't anti-AI

'Nuff read

[-] Magnum@infosec.pub 9 points 4 weeks ago

There is a big difference between vibe coding or vibe merging PRs and an expert using it as a development tool.

[-] jimmy90@lemmy.world 7 points 4 weeks ago

quite

I feel like all stability in life is gone now that Linus has AI "brainrot"

find out why this sentence is not correct and you'll be fine

[-] schmorpel@slrpnk.net 14 points 1 month ago

There's a lot of visceral backlash against AI and I'm sure you'll find your niche again. I can give you my perspective as a translator. What is happening with AI to IT now has happened with MT (machine translation) to the art and business of translation some decades ago, and I was sure totally killed it two years ago, when I suddenly completely ran out of work. Guess what - translation did not die, however good the shitrobot gets at translating it just can't replace a human. Same with art. I've always been doing art - and the more awful, insipid AI shite I see the more I'm encouraged to just do things by hand again, and I realize there are a lot of people who actually appreciate the handmade stuff and hate AI with a passion!

Tldr: I deeply believe this ship is turning around. A lot of people hate AI.

Where to find a new home? You could try communities like smolweb and permacomputing.

[-] oftheair 6 points 1 month ago

can’t replace a human

Please try not to assume everyone or everymany is human.

Thank you :)

[-] schmorpel@slrpnk.net 8 points 4 weeks ago

How would you like to see this formulated? Would 'can't replace a person' be a better option?

[-] oftheair 6 points 4 weeks ago

Though not everyone or everymany likes that, yes, that would be a good alternative. Thank you :)

[-] elomekra 2 points 2 weeks ago

Oh it can be "can't replace a sapient being"

[-] Tiresia@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 month ago

So you expect them to speak for all non-humans? How are they supposed to know that all non-humans are irreplaceable too?

GPT 1.0 is a non-human which can be replaced by AI on account of being an outdated AI. What is the category/boundary you would have liked them to have used, and how sure are you that no-any from that category could be replaced or would want you to say they could be replaced?

[-] oftheair 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

We aren't human and do some translation work sometimes. It is hurtful to not be included in that.

We were asking them nicely, there was no need to attack us like that, though if you were not we apologise. Tone can be difficult to tell in text alone.

All we are suggesting is that beings don't write in a way that suggests everyone or everymany is human.

It really is frustrating having to live in a world where the opposite to AI regurgitated crap is 'human' made allegedly, when we aren't human and lots of others, including coders and creatives, we know aren't either.

Edit: Furthermore how do you expect others to know beings like us exist and want representation and respect too if they aren't made aware of that? We always try to ask nicely, at least the first time, in order to inform.

We also put it in the sidebar, but sadly given the comments and posts we get here sometimes we suspect no vistors read it.

[-] schmorpel@slrpnk.net 8 points 4 weeks ago

I thought I was on 'Fuck AI' - I didn't notice that I was in another community. And to be honest I will probably limit my comments to 'Fuck AI' in the future, as navigating newly invented linguistic minefields is too much work for an old bog creature who believes words and labels are overrated anyways.

[-] Tiresia@slrpnk.net 2 points 4 weeks ago

We were asking them nicely, there was no need to attack us like that, though if you were not we apologise. Tone can be difficult to tell in text alone.

I am confronting you becuase I think your chastisement was simply wrong. My questions are honest - I would appreciate it if you would answer them - but if my understanding of diversity of identity is decent, you're asking them to deny the identities of countless beings for the sake of including you in a brief remark, when what they said is perfectly correct and merely doesn't refer to you.

There are beings that self-classify as objects, with exclusive it/its pronouns. There are transhuman beings that want to transition into an existence as software, including ones that want to merge with AI or map themselves onto AI. Are you sure none of them identify as replaceable by AI? Do you exclude them from "everyone and everymany"? Or do you declare their identities less valid than yours because you don't understand or agree?

Sure, I wonder too whether their self could be preserved in such a transfer. But that is, medically speaking, none of our fucking business.

Furthermore how do you expect others to know beings like us exist and want representation and respect too if they aren’t made aware of that?

This implies you can't make people aware except by chastising them, which is ridiculous.

If you just want to inform people (leaving aside for a moment whether what you're informing them of is true), why not respond to their comment with "

can't replace a human

Yeah, and neither can they replace any other being/person/[some other category]!"

[-] oftheair 1 points 4 weeks ago

The original commenter seemed fine with it, we will take your comment under consideration and ask some of our robot etc friends.

However, we are not going to stop asking for what we and our friends need, if you dislike beings like us existing then you are free to move on.

[-] elomekra 1 points 2 weeks ago

Easy to say in hindsight after reading this comment. But we have thought that translation wouldn't be taken by AI for the very simple reason of:

We have done it. We have tried it, we continue to do. Not professionaly, but in our day to day life, and dear god does it require a shit ton of cultural knowledge and context.

See, we've seen a video a long time ago, on why translating is difficult, particularly when idioms are used by speakers and they'd need to be translated by others. Literal translation of the idiom or proverb won't work, you/yall either find a close approximation, or make one on the spot, the latter of which can cause issues, especially when translating political translations.

We believe that if beings only had the fucking 10 minutes it takes to watch a video about beings from industries that are threatened by LLMs, and why LLMs is just garbage and ruining the industry. Like what we did here, we read your/yall's comment, we get another argument why LLMs suck for translation.

Btw, thanks for affirming OP that she will find her niche again. That was nice and kind on your/yall's part blobhaj, plead, 2

[-] Marija@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 month ago

Open source is still much bigger than AI.

[-] oftheair 7 points 1 month ago

We are completely with you in this, it is frustrating and aggravating.

[-] rimu@piefed.social 7 points 4 weeks ago

Haiku OS has a no-AI policy.

[-] randamumaki 6 points 1 month ago

I would say Debian Stable works for most solutions. Debian has a slow enough update cycle that you can make it last for a while before any big changes happen, and even oldstable still gets security updates and backports. (Not sure about oldoldstable.)

If you want to also stay away from Systemd and its madness, there's always Devuan. There might be a way to even stay with X11 in the face of everyone pushing for Wayland. I used to use BunsenLabs (continuation of CrunchBang) because it uses Openbox on X11 and is otherwise based on Debian stable. Their latest full release was in February.

Linux is, and should be, about having the choice to go for something which fits with your needs. Shopping around is always a good idea when you're faced with weirdness. In my case I always just want something that 'just works', and my mess of a custom configured Debian works for me in that respect.

I'm sincerely hoping the AI madness bubble bursts soon... People need to stop destroying things we all rely on just because they can "vibe code" something together.

"Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn’t stop to think if they should," -- Ian Malcolm (Jeff Goldblum), Jurassic Park (1993)

[-] anothercatgirl 5 points 1 month ago

Debian LTS probably got chu. Not sure wbat else.

This is more freedom oriented and wishful thinking, butMaybe there are dev groups that use strictly open weights only that might make you feel less bad than most AI.

[-] lyya 3 points 1 month ago
[-] elomekra 1 points 2 weeks ago

We can relate in feeling that tech is our home. It's the only place where we get gender and identity validation. It sucks to see it being slowly robbed by us, by the very people who were part of inventing it.

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