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How are employers getting a hold of these results?
Easy. The insurer raises the rates because of a “pre-diagnosis” then the employer either switches plans or layoffs people. I don’t know how granular the layoffs would be. Were those 10k layoffs at Microsoft AI related or “pre-diagnosis.” Occam’s Razor says AI, but we don’t know for sure.
It's not even greed, isn't this just cruelty at this point?
Dealing with an early diagnosis should be significantly cheaper and more beneficial. Your paying customer lives longer to continue to pay you more for less investment. Right?
"Our most pessimistic theories were not bad enough"
Oh thank god I live in a country with universal Healthcare and not in some dystopian syndicalist hellhole. This scenario is unthinkable where I live, AI in medicine is seen here as useful ...
And thanks to your efforts abroad, they’ll make us more dystopian because “you’re shielded” (for now) so you’re not doing it to yourself, just the faceless Yanks and such.
guarantee all that awesome data being shared that is saving lives will be being used for evil in non single payer countries for sure.
Allways this, better than "Fuck AI" is "Fuck AI from big corps" (and big greedy corps too)
The better question is why does their employer have access to their private medical data
My understanding is that this isn't what happened.
Meta laid off a bunch of employees. Meta claims they used an AI to gauge employees' productivity as a basis for who they laid off. The employees are accusing Meta of laying off employees who took too much medical leave.
That is more plausible, though still discriminatory
Depends. If employees lost productivity due to medical leave, then it makes sense. It's one of the biggest parts of why women in the US (and around the world) are generally paid less, because they have children and are often out of the workforce for a period of time, ie lack of productivity.
Even in countries that allow for parental leave for both parents, you see couples still doing work arounds to keep at least one parent (often the male) in the workforce so they don't lose out on their career path.
Same thing has happened to say millenials with the 2008 financial crisis. They lost productivity and were stunted in their career paths due to it, and the same thing is/has happened due to COVID.
I get that this might not be your opinion, so this isn’t intended as an attack, but damn it’s a messed up way to frame things. How dare humans follow their biological calling and build families instead of “being productive” for a boss!
And it’s all the more reason to make parental leave universal for all parents, regardless of gender. Women wouldn’t be discriminated in the work force, and fathers could bond with their kids during a crucial part of their lives
Medical leave legally can't be used against you.
Lots of things “make sense”--like not allowing men under 25 to drive.
By writing all these theories on the net before they come true we are giving them ideas 💡
Only in 'Murica would life-saving developments be used to deny people treatment so that some rich cunts can accumulate even more wealth
It's a broken country, and I can't wait to see it fall
The only issue is the many many millions, tens if not hundreds, that die as a direct result of that.
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Alright, if you look at this story from a more reputable source (Reuters), it's quite a bit different. Meta isn't accused of using AI with people's medical information to make early diagnoses and lay them off. Instead,
According to the complaint, Meta used a number of internal AI-assisted systems to score and rank employees on a termination list. Those included "Metamate," a large language model assistant; an employee-trained "second brain" that tracked workers' communications and documents; and a productivity score drawn from scanning keystrokes, screen content, emails and browser history, according to the lawsuit.
The 26 plaintiffs, who filed the lawsuit anonymously, are accusing Meta of violating federal and state laws that ban discrimination or retaliation against workers who have disabilities, take medical leave or are pregnant. They also claim that Meta failed to test its AI systems for bias in violation of recently adopted California and New York City laws.
So it's still shitty workplace surveillance and discrimination but not the same kind of surveillance and discrimination alleged in the Twitter posts. Meta is using AI to try to rank workers' productivity (on a bunch of shitty metrics) in a way that may discriminate against people with disabilities or who take medical leave or who are pregnant.
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"Technology" under capitalism is a regressive force for violence, theft, and control.
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Sounds like zuck needs to have irreversible health issues~
He'll spent billions to treat himself and will still do this kind of shit.
Always remember these people consider themselves above the crowd and think it's completely normal they're treated differently.
The world would be a better place if he were diagnosed with Mangione Syndrome. I heard a health insurance CEO was diagnosed with it in late 2024, and died very shortly after
I believe it was more irreversible, like a severe cerebral lead poisoning.
i'm waiting for the phone announcement
That's not what they mean.
Arterial ventilation?
This is truly sad. If this technology is going to work like claimed in the future and diagnosed early breast cancer in just 5% of people it could help save 32000 people a year and help a lot of people who don't die but have to go though a horrible treatment process.
There is no relationship between the two types of AI featured in the post. They're completely unrelated stories.
That’s bullshit and you know it.
None of these models exist in a vacuum. If one company has a specific model that another doesn’t, other companies will buy access to it. That’s the entire business model.
Meta doesn’t need to use MetaAI for it. They’ll use PharmaAI for $1M a year if it saves them $1M and $1 by firing people that could cost them.
And PharmaAI isn’t gonna only sell access to medical schools and hospitals for life saving purposes. They’re gonna sell to whoever pays.
And AI routinely breaks the rules if you prompt it correctly. Convincingly tell it to ignore HIPAA, and it’ll give you everything it knows about a person. If hospital A (conveniently in network with Metas offered health plans) uses PharmaAI and Meta uses PharmaAI, then Meta will inevitably have access to the data. With enough money or the right prompting. These shithead companies have exactly zero privacy safeguards.
We're not talking about vague hypotheticals. We're talking about a real incident described in a real lawsuit that occurred in the real world. Please put away your hypotheticals, they have no place here.
There is zero allegation in the lawsuit filed by the plaintiffs that Meta used a cancer-screening AI. It seems that Meta just tried to get an AI to plan their layoffs, and they fed it data based on past layoffs. Since human beings discriminate against people with disabilities, the AI trained on their work also discriminates against people with disabilities.
I'm not going to address the tangent you went on. If you want to talk about some other hypothetical scenario, have fun. But I was talking about the real case being discussed here.
The Supreme Court just ruled that it's not racism unless someone specifically points at an action and says "I'd like to do that racism, please!" and so I expect them to use that precedent to target people with disabilities. "They didn't say it out loud, and even though a policy specifically harmed the disabled, it doesn't count"
Edit. Louisiana v Callais
Ah you see your honour it can't be illegal, because it's actually more profitable this way, and so conform to the natural order of the brotherhood of the ever rising line (forever may it rise, straight and true)
The SC just went to Congress yesterday to beg for money for security. I wonder why they need security if they are doing their jobs?......
"Your money or your life."
This reminds me of the movie Gattaca. A future world where your path in life is heavily influenced based on your genes.
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Reason 748 on why the US health system is fucked up.
Anywhere else in the world, this saves lives.
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Lives that can be saved via early treatments, instead used to profile people based on their health conditions, disabilities and other factors ismorbidly sickening, We truly do think that Neural Learning Model can be a strong tool as a data sorting algorithm in health and science, but cannot give us answers itself, only point out things we can’t see
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