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[-] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 121 points 4 days ago

Surely the army would conscript them to a cybersecurity red team?

military bad, draft bad.

but, yhea, gender discrimination is also bad. not sure if finding roles for them in the system is progress.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 36 points 4 days ago

It's the classic "is it progress if women are smoking" dilemma.

We have non-binary drone pilots, diversity

or We can have women war criminals, bossgirl feminism.

[-] zombyreagan@lemmy.ca 22 points 3 days ago

I think the joke is that at least in the west there is a very high amount of people in the tech industry who are trans.

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[-] Spezi@feddit.org 19 points 3 days ago

Don‘t think they have enough striped unix-socks.

[-] JillyB@beehaw.org 17 points 4 days ago

The NSA wishes they could harness that kind of power

[-] anton 15 points 4 days ago

Draft tends to apply to men only, so they probably can't conscript them, even if they want to.

Here in Germany, men can get drafted, even during peace time, while women can only be required to work in healthcare during a war.

[-] radamant@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago

The post is incorrect to begin with. I don't know the source of the photo, but in Thailand, the service is based on a lottery for men. You may easily never roll it. There are many thai students (girls too) that do military training during their high school years on some days and don't have to serve later. Also, this transitioning strategy will work in most countries in the world as most of them don't allow transwomen.

[-] Fifrok@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

"Trans women" should be written separately, as "trans" is an adjective.

"transwomen" and "transmen", on the other hand, are common dog whistles used by science denires to imply trans people are in a category of their own.

[-] radamant@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

I've been a trans rights supporter my whole life. Trans rights = humans rights. But now I'm being accused of using dog whistles because I don't follow the latest terminally online trends from extwitter/bsky on how to properly phrase things? You need to pick better battles, my man,

[-] Fifrok@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 7 hours ago

Trans is an adjective, so it's simply incorrect to ever write trans women without a space. TER"F"s have been using "transwomen" as a dogwhistle for over a decade, it's not some new speak.

[-] radamant@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

This is such of a niche of a niche of a niche of a niche of a problem, I can't even. All this language debate stuff was fine in 2015 when things were good. Now it's 2026 and we're having the absolute worst people running every country it seems. We have to focus on big things like right to repair, right to privacy, right to your data. Not debating a usage of a single space "trans" and "woman"

[-] Fifrok@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 6 hours ago

In 2015 when things were good? Ok, sure? Anyways, I'm not debating anything. I told you two facts, if you want to ignore them then you do you.

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[-] ceenote@lemmy.world 77 points 4 days ago

Hey, you can't be sure these girls aren't also there to visit their boyfriends in the army.

[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 47 points 3 days ago

... So Thailand actually has significantly better trans rights than the US does.

Because currently, in the US, trans people do not legally exist.

[-] mathemachristian 17 points 3 days ago

Iran has better trans rights than the US does...

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[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

It's complicated. Thailand has a continuous culture of recognizing gender non conformance (in part due to having never been colonized).

It's not amazing, and a lot of transfeminized people in Thailand are pushed into sex work, as well as facing some social stigmas. But from everything I've heard it's a lot better than a lot of the world

[-] BigDiction@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

They are recognized by DoD policy and can opt out, but they also cannot opt in.

[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 days ago

They effectively cannot vote in half the the county.

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[-] roserose56@lemmy.zip 62 points 4 days ago

In Greece they check that you have 2 balls. You can't serve if you have one only.

[-] kboy101222@sh.itjust.works 66 points 3 days ago
[-] ProbablyUnwise@anarchist.nexus 16 points 3 days ago

nah, nuts implies two (or more!)

[-] troybot@piefed.social 13 points 3 days ago

What if you have more? You've got three balls so we're promoting you to a higher pay grade.

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[-] lengau@midwest.social 12 points 3 days ago

Wouldn't want Hitler serving in the Greek army!

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[-] khaleer@sopuli.xyz 17 points 3 days ago

Mandatory military service is a slavery.

[-] Fribbizz@feddit.org 16 points 3 days ago

Only if there are ways out for the elite. Otherwise it's essentially a defense co-op. If you believe your country is using the military in ethically wrong ways, that's the actual problem, not the draft.

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 days ago

It can be a good thing.

While Canada doesn't have it, most of our military usage is disaster relief and it comes with free education.

I wouldn't mind everyone having to help in shelters, evacuate people, or fill sand bags in exchange for free education.

[-] FukOui@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

It has merits in some cases. (Eg living beside a hostile country like N Korea)

Draft bad

Gender discrimination bad

but in this case, somehow, they cancel each other out.

To be honest, if a country is gonna implement a draft or some form of compulsory service requirement, it should be gender neutral, and apply to their citizens universally, with no bearing on gender identity. By all means keep the physical fitness standards to ensure force effectiveness, but possession of one or another particular combinations of genitalia should not play into the equation at all.

[-] kboy101222@sh.itjust.works 14 points 3 days ago

On one hand, I agree with you, on the other hand I don't want to impose a military draft on 50-ish % of the population. On the other other hand, true gender equality would be if it didn't apply to anyone regardless of gender cause fuck drafts

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[-] strawberry_enjoyer42 38 points 3 days ago

The US excludes us too, but it just feels... different.

[-] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 22 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

It took me 15 seconds to read that explanation and I understand it fully without ever even going there. Terrible answer to the posted question.

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[-] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 28 points 4 days ago

Could you just show up in a dress and say your trans or do they make some attempt to verify?

[-] riwo 55 points 4 days ago

like "install arch linux without setup scrip within 20 minutet. go!"

[-] Kenny2999@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago

"compile a kernel in under 9 months"

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[-] Dippy@beehaw.org 3 points 2 days ago

Protect the dolls

[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 6 points 3 days ago

I think I completely understand this situation and I do not live in Thailand.

[-] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 7 points 3 days ago

Sooo this is a good way to meet sexy singles in my area?

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[-] 666dollarfootlong@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago

Those drafted can also pay to not go to the military. My girlfriend's brother who is now living abroad paid i think ~200€ to not have to go there

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