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I logged into steam after like 15 years and it still worked.
how is that even legal?
we need better consumer protection for digital purchases.
It’s literally because of consumer protection laws. GDPR requires the deletion of unused data, to ensure companies aren’t just holding onto your data indefinitely. This is simply the consequence of that, because Sony has apparently determined that three years is enough of a threshold to be considered “unused”.
GDPR only requires that, if there is no legitimate use for keeping the data. Ongoing software license is a legitimate use.
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No, it's not for GDPR compliance. It's like this talking point "stupid data protection laws, all those cookie banners". Nobody is forcing any company to use all those shitty tracking cookies ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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What an excellent way to convince aging gamers to just never buy from Sony again.
Yup, although I haven't purchased a Sony product in over a decade because they started charging a monthly fee for online services I got free on PC. Funny because I was a fanboy like no other during the console wars.
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i bought portal2 when it came out on ps3.... it also let me set up a steam account through my ps3, because that was going to be the next big thing (this was before ps+ and multiplayer was still free)
12 years later i got a PC, i downloaded steam.... and when i logged in, there was portal2 waiting for me to download it.
sony can go fuck themselves
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Non-spamblog version of the same article: https://www.levelup.com/en/news/playstation-could-permanently-delete-your-psn-account-and-digital-library-for-this-reason/
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Sony’s reminding me of their “599 US DOLLARS” era very heavily lately. Gaming has been in such a rough spot lately, it’s a shame.
The fact that digital everything has been such a clusterfuck of unwashed ass pushed me back to rock climbing. Thanks/go fuck yourself tech conglomerates! I’ve definitely drawn similar associations, Rick
I started playing ukulele because i did not feel like spending a years savings on a new gaming pc and nvidia fucked up gforce now. A recorder/flute is like 7 $. But its impossible to play silent.
It had the curse of being worth more than movies and television, so it attracted every "entertainment" investor around, demanding short term profits like movies do. Now we have giant corporations thinking they can even remotely understand what a creative medium is, and then being shocked when we don't buy their latest "written by HR"/microtransaction bullshit. Meanwhile Indie is doing great! Surprise, creative people make good creative products.
My biggest mistake was buying a PS4 instead of jumping to PC a generation earlier than I eventually did.
I bought my wife a ps5. Regretting that decision too.
This is for UK and EU due to GDPR that requires companies delete all user data for inactive accounts. It's a unintended consequences of the law and other gaming companies including Xbox have similar clauses.
The law says they can’t keep your PII after you stop being a customer, not anything about linking your email address to purchases for an entirely legitimate ongoing reason.
The law covers personal data not PII and is much broader than PII that is defined under the US Office of Privacy and Open Government which has no bearing on the GDPR.
As for personal data, email addresses are covered and even user names could be considered personal data depending on if it's linkable to a person and since your account is linked to your email and linked to you user name potentially, when they have to delete personal data the have to delete all of those foreign keys in their database that says your email once got a receipt for that game you bought digitally.
Except they don’t have to delete any of that as long as you hold ongoing software licenses with them, as that’s a legitimate interest. This is malicious compliance posing as “well they made us do it”, same as all the GDPR banners on the web.
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I haven't logged in since my PS3 died a couple years ago.
Tried to log in to their website with my saved password. It said the password was wrong. I reset my password, entered the same one that I previously used, fully expecting it to give the frustrating answer "Previous passwords can't be re-used." But no, it let me use it! Weird.
So some password systems prepend the hash algorithm to your password hash, that way you can tell if the user has migrated to the new algorithm or not when you change your hashing scheme.
Odds are after the PSN breach they changed the algorithm and have since removed the code to check the old algorithm. So it just sees the hash didn’t match with the new algorithm even though the password is the same.
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I've been a hardcore PlayStation guy since I was about 9 when I got my first console the PS1.
Crash team racing is better than Mario Kart 64
Spyro the Dragon is the best 3D platformer of the late 90s.
I've had a PS2.. That still works 22 years later.
I was in the great wars of PS2 vs XBOX.
I like Halo 1 and 2, I like Killzone 1, 2 and 3.
I was there at the beginning.
I was there when Sony moved their PlayStation HQ from Japan to America.
I was there when the quality of good JRPGs and adventure games plummeted so we could be fed a new call of duty and FIFA every year.
These days I'm PC, PS5 and switch. I will not be buying a PS6 or a Switch 2.
It should be mentioned that.. I'd rather throw myself down a cliff than buy an Xbox.
It's not just them. I accidentally ended up in prison for 5 years and lost my Google account, and because I had 2FA set up with email and the phone number I had at the time on pretty much everything that means I also lost my steam account and pretty much every single digital account I had. Thousands of games on different storefronts.
Ironically the only single place that helped me recover my account was the kind folks at Roberts Space Industries. I was an initial backer... Maybe one day the game will be done.
Everything else I pirate now. If you don't own it physically, you don't own it.
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There are doing a speed run no one wants.
Seems illegal.
ill be sure to tell my siblings to sign into my account every 3 years. gee thanks sony. whats the fucking point of this
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Note that technically the agreement says that Sony reserves the right to delete the account after 36 months, not that they'll actually do it. It might "just" be a stupid bit of legalese to cover Sony's ass in case they're required to delete older data.
Of course the idea is worrying nonetheless.
note my myself: whenever entering a contract with u/ChairmanMeow@programming.dev just tell him those terms that are not in his favor are just legalese for some edge case and I certainly will voluntarily not make any use of those terms that are totally in my favor and they should not worry.
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Wow this seems like a gross overstep of boundaries . Fuckin, oh well i guess
Huh. That's actually a little disappointing. I have a couple of exclusives on there that I would prefer not to lose. But I also no longer own any modern PlayStation consoles, nor am I likely to in the future. So trying to decide if this is going to be the thing that makes me leave Sony for good, or if I should just make a little effort to login from time to time.
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It's updates like this that make me wish for a 'git diff' of those changes.
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Is this an attempt to temporarily artifically inflate unique account activity metrics for self-congratulation and shareholder ego stroking?
(This month X millions players logged in to play games, which is a significant increase from before!)
This is sad just because of the old names disappearing. A friend of mine killed themselves back in 2017, but we played a few games on ps4 together online back in the day. So I still scroll down to look at that old gamer tag every now and then. Its sad to think of that going away.
I jumped after PS3. I logged in one day to find a message that the Smash Brothers clone I enjoyed was removed from my library and the servers shut down. Just, out of nowhere. Also, the low frame rate and FOV in some games started giving me motion sickness consistently. I do miss the simplicity of owning consoles and the excitement of new hardware releases.
also found out switch deletes your cloud saves after a while if you stop paying
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