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[-] nx2@feddit.de 52 points 1 year ago

No? Dota is the father, not Dota 2

[-] kameecoding@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

well Dota 2 is Dota just on a new engine for a good while they also had patch parity until Dota 2 moved past the limitations of the WC3 engine and so DotA was abandoned

[-] Siethron@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Technically it was already DotA 2 when Morello pulled his stunt.

[-] Rayspekt@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

What stunt?

[-] Vector@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

* WarCraft 3 DotA Map has entered the chat *

[-] Fades@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

DotA Allstars has left the chat, sad that it has been forgotten after pendragon locked it down and stole everything to start riot

[-] coco@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Damn right inolayed that similar shit then dota swoop that custom mini map

[-] Blizzard@lemmy.zip 22 points 1 year ago

Isn't League of Legends just a WarCraft 3 without gathering resources, building buildings and training army? Basically just hero units fighting akwardly.

[-] applebusch@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago

For some history, the original DOTA was a custom map in Warcraft 3. It pretty much defined the moba genre. From there lots of clones were created, and eventually some were made into full games. League of Legends is one of those, and became the most popular. So yes, they're all just Warcraft 3 with only the hero parts.

[-] DacoTaco@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

League wasnt a clone, league was in the beginning by the people behind the original w3 dota map :')

[-] kameecoding@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

the main maintainer of DotA at the time IceFrog works with Valve and is behind Dota 2.

so yes, LoL is a knockoff.

https://youtu.be/JBI9NlPqRi0?si=9T7DBYB2MOfQKo4N

No. Icefrog was the assistant dev. Guinsoo was the main dev and left dota to start LoL, leaving icefrog in charge of the project.

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 22 points 1 year ago

Clone isn't derogatory.

[-] GreenMario@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago

Isn't Aeon of Strife first? (SC Brood War map) or did it come out after dota 1?

[-] Naz@sh.itjust.works 36 points 1 year ago

It was Chaos War (SC) -> Hero Arena (WC3) -> Attack on the Light v0.1a (WC3) -> Defense of the Ancients v1.3 (WC3).

Source: I made Chaos War (SC1 Map).

A multi-billion dollar industry hinges on the fact that an eight year old figured out how to make a map trigger which spawned units with an attack-move command in a custom editor in an RTS.

P.S: (I've seen exactly $0 of DOTA "money". It was free and clear, for any and all, a source of happiness with no entry fee except Use Map Settings.)

[-] not_mike_pence@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

I really miss that era of warcraft 3 custom games. The old bnet screen gives me a lot of nostalgia.

[-] Mataresian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

This is my biggest reason for hating on WoW. After the release wc3 custom games were rather dead

[-] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago

Yea there was some pirate boat game I spent hours on in WC3. I loved that game. Haven't seen anything like it since.

[-] pipe01@lemmy.pipe01.net 3 points 1 year ago

Source: it was me, I was there

[-] adonis@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Where did Aeon of Strife come into play for the UMS era then?

[-] slampisko@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes, it's consistent with what the genre was called before it was shortened to MOBA. "Aeon of Strife Styled Fortress Assault Game Going On Two Sides". A.k.a. ASSremovedS

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 7 points 1 year ago

But we're all forgetting the ultimate game mode, Life of a Peasant.

[-] Dee@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Life of a Peasant

That's a core memory from out of the depths, thanks for the reminder.

[-] Astroturfed@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

I would say that was a strong influence but there were a lot of custom games with some of the elements of DOTA before it. I think DOTA defined the entire genre and how all the elements work first. Brood War just didn't even have the options to make a real MOBA.

[-] EherVielleicht@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Now I have to Google, but SC is so far before wc3......

[-] coco@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Tjhank you for the reminder you re right. And it transferee to wc3 and better

[-] iforgotmyinstance@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Mmmmm Riot. When I want my games with a side of misogyny, softcore porn and diluted game mechanics.

[-] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago

And kernel level anticheat spyware

[-] DmMacniel@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Which locks me out because I refuse to use windows ever again. (And I invested quite generously into Valorant, time and money wise)

[-] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I hope they push that for league as well so I can finally be free of this game. I really can't quit otherwise and I hate it.

[-] LordBelphegor@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Any CCP influence thanks to Tencent.

[-] Etterra@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

They both suck.

[-] thorbot@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I didn’t know Jensen was in The Boys until the memes and now I’m immediately watching them all

[-] Just_Not_Funny@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Definitely worth a watch. Gen V is okay too.

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Shouldn't this be reversed?

Idk I've never seen the show, only it's memes.

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago

The Boys spoilers

The top frame features Homelander. The bottom has Soldier Boy. Soldier Boy is Homelander's biological father. They used his sperm. I don't remember if they altered it but it was definitely originally sperm from Soldier Boy.

Basically Homelander views himself as an upgrade of Soldier Boy but Soldier Boy views Homelander as a cheap knockoff of Soldier Boy.

If they changed DotA 2 to DotA then the meme would make more sense. DotA 2 and LoL are both successors to the original DotA map from WC3. If Homelander and Soldier Boy were brothers then it would make sense.

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

If they changed DotA 2 to DotA then the meme would make more sense. DotA 2 and LoL are both successors to the original DotA map from WC3. If Homelander and Soldier Boy were brothers then it would make sense.

Thanks! Also, how do you do the spoiler?

[-] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This really butchers how excellent that scene was. I get the idea but this feels like a downgrade lol

[-] jeansibelius@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Dota 2 was released 4 years after League.

And btw Defense of the Ancients ≠ Dota 2

[-] HandBreadedTools@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Bro dota 2 and dota 1 were literally the exact same game until 6.84 lmfao

[-] EherVielleicht@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago
[-] AceQuorthon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

Woah, did the evil superman really say that? 😯😯😯

[-] FunkyMonk@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Then Paragon is just one of the many dead supes they both nuked :x

[-] Astroturfed@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

That's a game I hadn't thought of in a long time. I wanted that to be good so badly. It just wasn't though. Didn't run well, wasn't fun. Apparently someone has remade the game with the same name + the overprime. Wonder if they made it any better.

[-] Squirrel@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

There’s another remake called Predecessor. It’s ok but it still has a way to go. It’s more similar to later Paragon (especially the map) but without the shitty card system. It’ll be free to play eventually with the option to grind to unlock characters or pay for immediate unlocks.

[-] MJBrune@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

At least all the paragon assets are free to use in unreal engine.

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