It does feel like the average person has the self control of a toddler.
I don’t think they care as much as you think they do, it is how the average person would have purchased the game regardless
Exactly. The people showing their real level of intellect are the people who seem to be unable to understand the facts of the situation, think that they know better than the company who actually manufactures and sells the things, and call everyone else dumb and unintelligent for not agreeing with their factually incorrect opinion.
The 'everyone is 12' joke-theory is actually just essentially true.
In the US, the average adult person in fact is no more literate or 'numerate' than a 12 year old, a 5th grader.
The average person literally is a tween, in terms of higher thought capacity.
Again... this is not a joke, it is just actually true.
Apply George Carlin logic to this.
50% of American adults are less mentally capable than 12 year olds.
The entire generation after the Millenials are impulsive and raised entirely on being nickeled and dimed to death.
I assume you're being downvoted because this is true for every generation for the past 150 years, give or take. However, I agree that it's gotten so much worse over the past ~20. Since phones, microtransactions, and subscriptions have become the norm, it's accelerated to an astounding degree.
Didn't even know I was honestly. I guess there is a nuance that comes with explaining a position like mine. It was 100% in sympathy of the newer generations, not an attack. They're so overwhelmed with subscriptions, FOMO, and legally children's gambling like loot boxes that it's fucking depressing.
I don’t understand this. Do something else.
GTA5 was out for like three years on PC before I bothered with it. I found it to be... fairly mediocre. There's nothing in GTA6 that would make me feel otherwise. I'll eventually play it... at great discount, or not at all.
Yeah I genuinely don't understand the hype. Maybe I'm just old and fully saturated with GTA already.
nothing special but rabid fans and worth a billion dollars, it's the Taylor Swift of video game franchises
Maybe but it's also sloppified. I mean, a casino? Really? GTA V Online lost the irony and became just bad.
I liked it, but I only owned San Andreas, played a bit of IV and LCS, then V, so I haven't really reached GTA fatigue yet
I thought it was pretty cool, as a crass story, mockery of aspects of corporations and society, and as a driving sim. My least favourite part of any MMO is its griefing potential. Fallout 76 was okay because while you, a roleplayer/gamer interested in the game, still got hurt by griefers only interested in murdering other humans, it reduced damage to a miniscule level.
GTA V Online required that you either secede from society entirely with a private lobby or become a true pacifist, meaning no PvE. Later on they stopped selling exclusively weapon-free vehicles to players and the entertainment level of free roam for me dropped to zero. After that it became just a hub for racing, FPS or sitting in the apartment watching TV, all of which can be better achieved elsewhere.
People have the power to shut down bad practices if they had even a modicum of restraint. They don't, so here we are.
It's kind of disheartening not having solidarity as consumers. It also feeds this kinda FOMO because you showed restraint and are missing out on something.
I've come to terms with this. I view fomo content as disrespectful and I do not support the companies that use it as a tactic.
So I was watching JoeFromSeattle and he basically has an observation/theory from repeatedly interacting with these people on Twitter.
... They literally do not count themselves as 'gamers', they use the word to identify others.
These are the people who buy Madden/FIFA every year, every COD, every Battlefield, and assume everyone does that, to the point of projecting it without realizing it and then not believing you if you say you didn't do that as well.
... they are very often illiterate, cannot understand sentences above roughly Grade 5 complexity, always assume they are correct and work backwards to attempt to form a justification for whatever they've decided is corrrect.
... they're morons.
Like just... complete fucking morons.
And that's not an insult, its simply accurate.
It's always fun going through Facebook marketplace and seeing consoles for sale with their "game collection" which is just 10 boxes with the yearly iterations of FIFA and CoD.
I’m sorry but if you’re not playing at least one of those games every year, you are the minority. Those people who constantly buy and play games are more of a “gamer” than a judgemental arse like yourself. Those games you criticise are by FAR the most played and bought games every year, played by tens of millions of people - the majority of gamers.
People like you give “gamers” a bad name.
I mean, I play a lot of video games. I don't identify as a gamer mostly because of the gamergate bullshit connotations.
That's exactly it. It used to just mean "People who played games." Then it got soiled and politicized.
So to their point, yeah, there's huge groups of people that don't care about "gamer problems" because they don't see themselves as "those people", even as they...buy and play lots of games.
They sell us out as well as themselves, and are completely oblivious to the consequences.
Do not preorder anything ever
Especially digital stuff. What are they going to do, run out of bytes?
Post-covid inflation proved to companies that customers will pay up regardless because they want it and they want it now, no matter the price. Hell, we laughed at horse armor but microtransactions caught on anyway. Voting with your wallet doesn't work because there are an endless swarm of consoomers itching to blow their money on product.
Consent is actually way cheaper to make than a product that's good for people.
GTA is the exact same formula since GTA3.
Sure you get a different story, visual upgrades, and some newer cars. But you're not paying for a new gaming experience, it's essentially become what people made fun of CoD or Nintendo games for.
In that sense you'll get the same thrills from past games. That's also why I didn't give a shit about anything past 3, because I like to play new games not reskins.
I think it's only survived because it is in this niche of socially acceptable "cool" games. You can admit to playing GTA to almost anyone and your not as much a "gamng nerd", but if you like a fantasy RPG your some basement dwelling dweeb. Honestly they are not all that different from each other.
different story, visual upgrades, newer cars
Just spitballing here, but isn't that like 90% of what makes a game? Or at the very least, literally any sequel?
Replacing "cars" with whatever is game-appropriate, of course
My idiot brother learned the term "fetch quest" and then snobbed himself right out of gaming. He couldn't see anything happening around "go here, interact with mcguffin, go back"
The family grew up loving Sierra games, especially stuff made by the Coles, so I don't know where he got that.
I still haven't played GTA 4 or 5. I own them (got 'em cheap long after release) but I haven't gotten around to playing them yet. Maybe by the time I have GTA 6 will be a reasonable price.
Remember the words of Guybrush Threepwood:
Gamers are so impatient these days. I guess all that instant access via online platforms has spoiled them.
I still remember when you ordered physical games via mail and had to gulp actually wait a 1-2 weeks for delivery.
Either that or actually go into a store.
Back then you really looked forward to a game and you actually played and finished it. Also, patches or updates were either rare or non existent depending on the platform, so Devs actually had to release a complete game. There were no DLCs, there were expansion packs, if anything.
I never understood people who need to have a game or a piece of hardware on release day. There will always be bugs. When it comes to hardware, I always wait for at least one revision, before I pull the trigger. As for games, I no longer pay more than 20€ for a game. It's on my wishlist, I only care about the single player experience, my backlog is huge, sales happen all the time,... I can wait.
I guess all that instant access via online platforms has spoiled them.
And FOMO. I think many active gamers follow youtubers and other gaming content on social media, so they're afraid of spoilers too.
Did I miss something or is gta not associated with Sony at all besides being console first for a while?
They announced that they're not releasing a disc version just a few days before sony announced they were going to phase out discs for the playstation.
They're both going diskless/digital downloads for games.
That's the reason we can't have nice things: the MoFos that will follow along when Evil Inc. does evil thing because they just can't live without the latest wrinkle.
Kind of random but I hope they do the game comparisons not just with GTA 4 & 5 but also GTA clones like Watchdogs or even Cyberpunk 2077.
For all the graphical "upgrades" we've gotten, the physics and dynamic open world has fallen far behind.
What's the point of all that graphic fidelity if NPCs still act like scripted bots from Skyrim?
I'm out. I know that it wont amount to much in the grand scheme of things. I switched from a pure Playstation background (owned 1 through 5 on release day and had hundreds of games for each generation) over to PC. I wont partake in this, and I have spent thousands of hours with GTA.
Between Playatation being shitty and now Rockstar being extra shitty, I'm out.
I never understood GTA online. For me GTA always has been a great single player series, so get fucked with your stupid Rockstar Launcher.
Rockstar peaked with Red Dead Redemption 2.
They peaked with their last game they released? And you know this how?
I'm not sure why we're surprised.
This entire gen has had spotty coverage of physical games at the best of times. Even on the biggest titles.
Just off the top of my head BG3 wasn't even available on disc, and Indiana Jones was only in some overpriced collector's edition.
I guess the odd way GTA6 is putting a code in a box is grabbing the headlines, rather than it just not being available on a disc.
look...at this point I don't know why we keep complaining about it. there are still plenty of people out there who just don't give a fuck about physical media, price points, industry profiteering, etc. we just have to accept we don't have the numbers to make a difference. I feel it's an age thing for one. when I was younger I couldn't wait for any this type of stuff. if I didn't have money I'd bug parents for it, sell my shit or whatever to get the new hot thing....then I got older and didn't care as much and now couldn't give 2 fucks. I've become patient and wait out for cheaper pricing, better content, better reviews even though I could buy 10 of anything new that comes out...I want to make better decisions about giving money to companies that don't exploit their people, so on but there are not enough of us to make a dent so we abide and continue to influence others to our side until we have more who believe like we do. having all these streamers review content doesn't help. they add to the hype. for them it's business so they pump this shit up and hype it up and people eat it up because they have the self control of a toddler, amen. touch some grass y'all and then play a little skyrim.....
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