~~England~~ Every country
To me as a Malaysian: it's complicated. At least for James Brooke the White Rajah of Borneo, some local do adore him as a ruler, or at least liked him because him ruling mean no more war between tribe.
Also as a non-malay, i cannot imagine or dare to imagine a modern Malaysia where Malaya/Borneo didn't get conquered by European, because there won't be one, and seeing how Saudi Arabia turn out to be these day. While British leave a mess here and there, they also leave democracy to this land, combined multiple state into one, abolish slavery(the sultans endorse slavery and enslaved non-muslim), and weakened the sultans to almost a decoration state. So at least now we just have to satisfy the freeloader asking for rent, than a monarchy state that will dictate everyone based on a fantasy book from ages ago.
So while the coloniser(Portuguese, dutch, then brits) are bad guy, the one they colonised also very much a bad guy. To me they're like the left but from Injustice universe.
If you were given Superman's powers, would you do the same thing as he does in the comics?
I try to imagine myself doing that, and I can't imagine it would be anything but depressing. Oh, now that bad person over there wants to kill that other bad person. Probably if you went and completely stopped the fighting in the Middle East, people would just call you antisemitic. And then the moment you left, they'd all start killing each other again.
I suspect that, rather than trying to save or rule people, I'd just become an apathetic egomaniac. There's no point to ruling humans. Just like humans aren't obsessed with ruling ants. I'd probably just see them as the best available source of entertainment, and I'd only intervene if something interferes with the entertainment industry.
I mean, as always it depends on which Superman we're talking about. I've seen some depictions that treat the super-hearing more like a curse. Could you maintain your apathy if you could hear every pained scream and every cry for help in your city?
Not to mention, some depictions have him on the level of a god where you certainly could do whatever the hell you wanted, whereas others have him a lot weaker and closer to something that the world could defeat if he really became a problem. I don't think I'd want to take on the world if I knew a nuclear arsenal could still take me out.
Fuck no, stop the wealthy, threaten anyone attempting to wage wars, genociding, opressing.
Distribute resources, build schools, destroy datacenters.
Idk man, you have the capacity to do whatever. We just assume a nice guy narrative because that’s what we’ve come to expect.
If some random human was superman, they’d just kill all the bad people. In my case, until utopia existed. And then any bad people who challenged that utopia. Because whats the point of ultimate power if you never use it for good?
And sure, bad guys will pop up to cause problems, but they do that anyway. Musk, bezos, pick your poison, they crop up all the time and need to be stamped down.
You as superman stomp those all down. Fatally. End-of.
I'm assuming they still teach the grim history in schools in the UK. They did when I went to school. I don't think I know anybody who feels proud of "the good old days" but then it's not a topic which comes up much.
Yep, same.
World War Two and Churchill was the only history I was taught that could be classed as being proud of. Everything else was more of a "look at all this bad shit we did" type scenario.
Not British, but the standout things I know of Churchill are mostly related to the bengal famine and his staunch distaste of progressive social policy. I think people also thought he was a good speaker.
What's he best known for over there?
Fighting the Nazis
I always understood his opposition to be mainly about the fact they were targeting "the wrong people" and might eventually land on British shores.
Fighting nazis is obviously a good thing, I just wasn't aware people thought he was uniquely good because of that.
Again, I am not British, so my understanding of his motivations are filtered by the pond between us.
If he wasn't pm during the war then he probably be another name nobody remembers in modern times.
He's remembered because of the war. I'm sure wherever you're from has similar figures in history, if not war ones, other significant changes which impacted people's lives and becomes a figure head of that change. Whether it be good or bad.
Totally understandable response. Definitely the case where I'm from too.
I also appreciate that it's coming from the most British username I've seen recently.
Thanks! I don't drink tea so sadly not British enough. But indo enjoy dunking in tea.
That's Snyderverse Superman. He was plenty grim.
Is this referencing school text books? Because if anything the problem is solved by just not teaching large chunks of history at all.
It goes Ancient Egypt, the Vikings, Henry VIII wives, WWII and that's about it.
Don't forget WWII, WWII, and WWII.
Wut
To the left ist Superman, considered as an unstoppable force of good.
To the right is Homelander, similar powers but a fascist, mentally ill person created by a corrupt Mega-Corporation.
What part are you confused about?
not everyone has seen The Boys i guess. i get it, it's very definitely not for everyone
Did the dude on the right conquer half the world and make it adopt his culture?
Yes, he was well on his way to conquering the whole world.
It's heavily based on Trump, so what he's doing is more in line with what Trump would do if he had superman powers, he hasn't started conquering other countries hard yet, the series is going in another direction in the last season. But if he were set free he absolutely would.
It's heavily based on Trump
To be clear, a lead writer (Eric Kripke) said the show version of the character (as opposed to the comic book)[seen to the right of Superman, in the OP] was supposed to be a metaphor for Donald Trump.
Not to detract from your comment. But, in this moment, my eyes were opened to the flow of history and I could see that the above line would be a source of half-remembered misinformation.
I mean I've only seen the first three seasons so...
Did somebody else do that?
Idk I don’t watch capeshit either.
People's memories of school are unreliable and I'm seeing a few comments about how we were "only" taught a couple of things in school.
Here is the current UK history lesson curriculum, summarized
changes within living memory – where appropriate, these should be used to reveal aspects of change in national life
events beyond living memory that are significant nationally or globally for example, the Great Fire of London, the first aeroplane flight or events commemorated through festivals or anniversaries
the lives of significant individuals in the past who have contributed to national and international achievements, some should be used to compare aspects of life in different periods for example, Elizabeth I and Queen Victoria, Christopher Columbus and Neil Armstrong, William Caxton and Tim Berners-Lee, Pieter Bruegel the Elder and LS Lowry, Rosa Parks and Emily Davison, Mary Seacole and/or Florence Nightingale and Edith Cavell
iron age
Romans
anglo-saxons / Scots
Vikings
Edward the confessor
a local history study of an event after 1066, but can include influence from before e.g. the impact of greco-Roman culture on the medieval period
early civilization (usually egypt)
ancient Greece
ancient non-european culture (usally Islam, Benin or Mayan)
British history in the following epochs:
years 1066 thru 1509
1509 thru 1745
1745 thru 1901
1901 thru modern day
plus at least one non-european study and it's interconnections to world history
I'm shocked y'all're including Rosa Parks in there. Like, she's awesome, but she's an American protestor ~~for a deeply American issue~~. Ok apparently the UK had segregation, just not on the level of the American south. But I guess it makes a lot of sense to compare that to the women's sufferage movement.
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