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submitted 3 days ago by may_be@thelemmy.club to c/asktransgender

so obviously, there's a lot of headcanons where people will say certain characters are trans or non-binary, and a lot of people will say "trans pride" or "trans rights".

well, what about the cis people and the cis detransitioners who say "cis/detrans rights" "cis/detrans pride"? i've been lately seeing more things where people will headcanon their favorite characters as cis detransitioners.

im fine with detransitioners and cis people, i don't really mind. but i guess i'm confused for some reason as a trans man... also, i don't really understand the cis pride/rights thing because they're not a minority, but detrans i can sorta understand because they're cis but they have experiences that aren't unique to all cis people but also not all trans people (since they detransition)

i guess, maybe deep down, i wish i could be cis... i wish detransition worked for me...

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[-] tae_glas@slrpnk.net 23 points 3 days ago

cis rights aren't under attack, trans rights are, so it feels pretty irrelevant to everything. what rights specifically are they asking for that they feel they don't have? 🤨

detransitioning also isn't under attack, people always have the right to detransition, and transphobia actively encourages this of all trans people, even those who have no desire to detransition. idk the percentages globally, but it's not unheard of for trans people to detransition solely due to lack of support/healthcare & fear for their safety.

any discrimination people face during/after detransition over their appearance/voice/etc is a result of transphobia. similarly, cis people (particularly POC cis people) who don't fit the cis standard being questioned about whether they're in the right bathroom, whether they should be allowed to compete in XYZ sports, etc also comes from transphobia.

idk, it feels to me like the "but what about men's day?" that gets trotted out endlessly every international working women's day. if they actually cared about men's day, rather than just loudly being a distraction, they'd have looked it up or would celebrate it every november, y'know?

[-] may_be@thelemmy.club 2 points 3 days ago

i agree. i do especially know of some people who are desisters, which is like detransitioning but never having taken hormones or surgeries. so basically reverting back to your original pronouns and clothing style, maybe a haircut.

but i hear a lot of people, despite them being cis or looking like their "birth gender", say stuff about "cis rights" or "detransition rights"

[-] tae_glas@slrpnk.net 5 points 3 days ago

if cis people / detransitioners want to campaign for specific rights that they feel they don't have, they're allowed to do that.

if they only bring this up when speaking over trans people talking about or campaigning for their rights, they're trolls.

[-] applebusch 13 points 3 days ago

people who are loudly detransitioners always give me the ick. detransitioning is one of those things pushed by right wing bigots who hate trans people. they hold up people who detransitioned as examples of why no one should be allowed to transition and claim that tons of people are doing it, when in reality a very tiny minority of people detransition, and a lot of those are more likely because they were being abused in some way and felt detransitioning was the only way to protect themselves. so when someone is loudly a detransitioner it makes me wonder, are they actually a bigot doing a bit to push their agenda or a trans person who was abused into believing they were wrong all along? either way i question their motives.

[-] may_be@thelemmy.club 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

ahh, that's the term, loud detransitioners, yeah. i agree with u though

i know a lady who's a detransitioned cis ally, but as for the others, especially the ones who loudly talk about how cis they are, idk...

[-] riwo 6 points 3 days ago

i think cis pride is just a rightist anti-pride kinda thing.

detrans pride on the other hand sounds like it can be legitimate. i think for people to be truely free in their gender expression, we need to be able to experiment, without getting scrutinzed, and that also means with the option to change our minds and not have to commit if it turns out something is not for us. because i can see how it might be hard to come out about detransitioning, out of fear that it will undermine ones autonomy, after having struggled for validity for so long before.

and idk about detrans rights, but i can imagine that there are certain legal rights that detransitioners might need or want, such as changing their legal gender and name again, and maybe getting hrt and surgeries paid through the medical system, to feel more comfortable in their bodies again. i would say in an abstract sense these are the same rights as trans rights, but i have noticed the way that laws often work, they can be exclusively written for certain groups (like how cis people can't just change their first names as easily, or how trans people are often denied the gender affirming hrt and surgeries (without prior therapy) that cis people can just get without question) i think it would be better for everyone, if we were allowed more freedom in our self actualization by state and society than we are rn :3

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