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[-] IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf 7 points 1 day ago

aaaaaand he defended labor camps

[-] IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf 7 points 1 day ago

didnt this guy send gay people to concentration camps?

[-] megopie@beehaw.org 29 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Everyone forgets that Che was a collage educated upper middle class yuppie who got radicalized on a road trip while trying to “find him self”

So, like, this is basically his crowd when he was younger.

[-] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 days ago

That was his origin, but his history shows that it was kind of irrelevant in the sense that he spent his life supporting revolutions in Latin America

[-] megopie@beehaw.org 20 points 2 days ago

I don’t think it is irrelevant, I think it shows that background does not preclude people from dedicating them selves to causes they believe in. And that ideological purity tests based in social background are counter productive.

[-] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 days ago

Yeah that's what I meant ^^'

[-] SocialistVibes01@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago

My bro Ho was a cook.

[-] therealdries@lemmy.dbzer0.com 43 points 2 days ago

I don't think Che was the type that would be impressed by somebody who makes memes.

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)
[-] therealdries@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 days ago
[-] lugal@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 days ago

This is posted on Lemmy where you reach the masses, don't underestimate that.

[-] Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 20 points 2 days ago

Oh buddy. There ain't no masses involved. Lemmy is where you reach the dozens.

[-] lugal@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago

Your comment alone has more than a dozen upvotes. Think about that.

[-] Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago

Should my thinking include the possibility that you don't know what plural words are?

[-] lugal@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago

Plural is when more than one

[-] therealdries@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 days ago

where you reach the masses

That doesn't make this any better - in fact, it makes it worse.

[-] eestileib 24 points 2 days ago

Famous politicians tend to be narcissistic sociopaths, and looking for validation from a narcissistic sociopath is a dead end.

[-] lvxferre@mander.xyz 9 points 2 days ago

>canned yerba mate

What the bloody hell.

[-] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 7 points 2 days ago

fwiw that stuff is waaay more caffeinated than the stuff you make yourself

[-] lvxferre@mander.xyz 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

See, there's stuff that's clearly wrong, like:

  • Paraguayans drinking it too cold
  • folks in northern Paraná drinking it too hot
  • Argentinians roasting it too much, until it's brown
  • Riograndenses milling it too thin

But canned yerba? That isn't just wrong, it's abomination! Refer to Dante's Inferno: the 8th circle is for the fraudsters who put cheese on garlic-and-oil pasta and ketchup on pizza, but the 9th one is for the ones who drink canned yerba! It's treason!!!1one

(I think it should be clear for anyone I'm joking with the fake outrage. Specially given I quite like tereré, i.e. Paraguayan style cold yerba. And unlike Che I'm not some boomer to tell others to stop enjoying what they enjoy. But seriously, I bet he'd be mad at the canned yerba. And most other things in the meme.)

Anyway, it isn't just about the caffeine content, it's all that nice ritual and the flavour and everything else.

[-] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 day ago

oh absolutely. my statement was not an endorsement. half a can of that stuff will give you severe jitters

[-] Godric@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago
[-] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 44 points 2 days ago

Imagine using AI as a reference

[-] Godric@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

Imagine worshipping a homophobe during pride month

[-] prole 17 points 2 days ago

worshipping

And who exactly is doing this?

[-] therealdries@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Stop peddling horseshit.

That's what you are... a peddler of horseshit - you know, because that's what you are doing... peddling horseshit.

Kindly stop that.

[-] mortemtyrannis@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 days ago

I don’t understand the consternation with accepting Che was homophobic.

He was a product of his times.

Is it really that shocking that a man in the 1950s has homophobic views?

You linked a source saying this; he called a gay man a pervert.

Why die on this hill?

[-] Objection@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Is it really that shocking that a man in the 1950s has homophobic views?

Yeah, I mean, even FDR personally murdered dozens of gay people with a chainsaw.

Oh wait! I made that up! But I bet I can find some problematic statement he said at some point in his life, so I guess that's fine that I said that.

[-] WraithGear@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

wait wait wait, i thought the whole point of this was the insinuation that he was homophonic and is blamed for creating gay work camps and committing human rights violations against gay people. this person lays out a detailed rebuttal on the major talking points that would back the accusers assertions… but now it’s “well everyone at the time was homophobic!, so i am still technically right!”

so you do know there is a difference between someone who uses the word gay to mean bad or gross, and someone who commands the creation of concentration camps to commit human rights violations against gay people right?

it’s a little dishonest. is this moving the goal post?

[-] SarahValentine 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

so you do know there is a difference between someone who uses the word gay to mean bad or gross, and someone who commands the creation of concentration camps to commit human rights violations against gay people right?

The latter relies on the former to attain power. We should tolerate neither.

[-] WraithGear@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

so you don’t recognize the difference then. and your entire point is meaningless.

and i would think you would be happy to know that he hasn’t used such language in quite a few years.

[-] SarahValentine 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

so you don’t recognize the difference then.

Translation: "I want to normalize but not reclaim a slur. How do I spin this so it doesn't seem so bad?"

[-] WraithGear@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

you are inventing an enemy of your own choosing instead of being honest with this “discussion”

i never said that, but i can see why you would rather argue someone who acutely believed that then admit you lack the bare basic nuance to separate hitler from an edgy 90’s tween, due to not wanting to actully defend the argument against Che after, from what i can see, is a very reasonable rebuttal.

you must have something against Che, but are unable to articulate why he is bad

[-] SarahValentine 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

you are inventing an enemy of your own choosing

Nice gaslighting attempt, but I'm not buying it. If someone uses "gay" as a synonym for anything bad, I don't respect them.

Toodle-oo!

[-] WraithGear@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

ok, good to know for certain that you were a waste of time

[-] therealdries@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 days ago

Is it really that shocking that a man in the 1950s has homophobic views?

Is that the problem you see here?

Really?

A shitlib waddles into a leftist space, does what every shitlib does whenever Che's name gets mentioned and craps out the standard shitlib disinformational propaganda about him they always do, and that's the problem you see here?

You linked a source saying this; he called a gay man a pervert.

I hate to be the one to break it to you... but LQBTQ people get to be perverts too - just like the rest of us.

[-] Godric@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Oh yeah, he was probably being sex-positive when he called homosexuality perversion /s

[-] Godric@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

Like honestly, how many dudes born in the 1920's had any sort of positive view on homosexuality? Crazy how hero worship whitewashes people who weren't heros.

[-] QuinnyCoded@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago

I have no idea what this means, but I like the guy with the shirt of the same drink he's drinking

[-] ztwhixsemhwldvka@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

This is the alternative timeline where, after meeting Emily, Che became a national socialist.

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