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[-] Z745812939054@lemmy.zip 96 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

the peasant class exists to generate more money for the owner class, not the other way around.

always has been

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[-] PixellatedDave@feddit.uk 43 points 2 weeks ago

I think also rich people need to have poor people otherwise they won't be seen to be rich. Also wealth = power

[-] Z745812939054@lemmy.zip 24 points 2 weeks ago

you make a good point, but i think of "rich people" as the families who have been unimaginably wealthy for hundreds of years. not musk, not bezos, bill gates, etc. the "old money" doesn't care if you know they're rich--in fact they would prefer you didn't. they just want to control the trajectory of your life in order to keep you in your place, and prevent you from encroaching on their position of power.

think warburgs and rothschilds, not the idiotic rich people flaunting their wealth on twitter

[-] tyler@programming.dev 17 points 2 weeks ago
[-] Z745812939054@lemmy.zip 15 points 2 weeks ago

i mean, fuck musk and bezos and all the rest too. call me a conspiracy theorist, but i'm skeptical of the notion that these people are actually the "richest" of all rich people

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[-] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 69 points 2 weeks ago

A lot of that "destroyed food" is animals who lived their entire lives in tiny, filthy cages just so that they could be killed and rot in a plastic bag.

[-] LordCrom@lemmy.world 38 points 2 weeks ago

I consider that just morally outrageous. To kill something so we can survive is nature's law of predator and prey.... But to kill and not have it consummed seems like the cruelest evil.

[-] Kptkrunch@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

I mean the cow probably doesn't care if you needlessly killed it to throw away the meat or to eat it.. both are unnecessary and both result in the same outcome for the cow. Both are also destroying the planet. "Predator/prey" is a great appeal to nature that I am sure many people use to justify themselves lazily shuffling through Walmart to throw frozen burgers into their cart.

[-] axx@slrpnk.net 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Not even, there's no biological need to eat animals or what they produce. We've established that much. It's just a choice, a preference, a form of cruelty ("I don't need to eat you, but I will chose to do so because it pleases me, now suffer and die without bothering me"). Throwing their corpses to waste is just the cherry on top.

[-] forkDestroyer@infosec.pub 10 points 1 week ago

Based on our growth as a species/taking over ecosystems, if certain animal populations in the wild aren't culled (have a certain number of their population killed), it will be bad for the local ecosystem.

There are arguments that allowing animals to do this, instead of humans, will not always guarantee the impact we want, either.

(Fun wolves in Yellowstone video in case you like video essays and want to go off on this tangent: https://youtu.be/Y9sQdMrEX2g )

Personally: I don't hunt and I rarely buy meat, but I still eat it from time to time and am upset when it goes to waste. I don't like the idea of a factory farm, but "here we are."

Final thought: the best way to decrease meat consumption is to make the alternatives easy to prepare and alluring to more of the population.

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[-] osanna@lemmy.vg 8 points 2 weeks ago

to kill someone

Ftfy

[-] gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

i mean lots of wolves, lions etc only eat half the sheep ... have you ever seen a half-eaten sheep? i have

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[-] IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf 7 points 1 week ago

capitalism is responsible for that we can easily establish ethical farming

[-] forkDestroyer@infosec.pub 5 points 1 week ago

I think unethical farming is present in every large system, no?

[-] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 6 points 1 week ago

Yes. This isn't a "capitalism" problem, this is a "see animals as products" problem.

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[-] USSMojave@startrek.website 56 points 2 weeks ago

The fact that at this time in history we have the world's first trillionaire and we padlock the dumpsters we throw food away into is a disgrace. The future will not look kindly on us that we let this stand

[-] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 15 points 2 weeks ago

We live in an absolutely disgusting world.

[-] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The world is full of the most beauty, I watched a heron fish in a pond earlier, the air and shade were perfect, it was majestic. It's just the handful of absolute assholes making it all suck so much.

[-] eestileib 10 points 2 weeks ago

Even the Harkonnen let the poor of Arrakeen eat the leftovers from their table.

[-] arsCynic@piefed.social 42 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I recently went to the store to buy some pastries before closing—you can already know where I'm going with this. The pastry cupboard was empty so I went to check the lady who cleans them out. They were all in three big boxes stacked on top of each other, filled with soon to be thrown pastries. I took two and paid full price, knowing how ridiculous this is in contrast with the rest having been thrown in the trash 10 minutes later. I'd much rather go a day or two without food knowing that nothing gets wasted and no one goes hungry than what shameful consumerist nonsense we have now.

[-] Mycatiskai@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 weeks ago

To my shame I worked at a supermarket bakery in my early 20s I would empty all the bulk bins into a garbage bin and into the dumpster every night. I complained multiple times that it could be bagged and donated, they relented and let me pack up expired prebagged breads to a shelter but never the bulk stuff.

I would at least eat as much as I could as I threw it out but there was only so much I could do.

[-] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 weeks ago

it's probably wise not to patronize places like that if possible.

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[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 36 points 2 weeks ago

They need the poors to fight their wars and work on their factory floors.

And to focus on perceived races, while keeping women and queers in their places.

(I'm working on the last line, too long)

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 34 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The works of the roots of the vines, of the trees, must be destroyed to keep up the price, and this is the saddest, bitterest thing of all. Carloads of oranges dumped on the ground. The people came for miles to take the fruit, but this could not be. How would they buy oranges at twenty cents a dozen if they could drive out and pick them up? And men with hoses squirt kerosene on the oranges, and they are angry at the crime, angry at the people who have come to take the fruit. A million people hungry, needing the fruit- and kerosene sprayed over the golden mountains. And the smell of rot fills the country. Burn coffee for fuel in the ships. Burn corn to keep warm, it makes a hot fire. Dump potatoes in the rivers and place guards along the banks to keep the hungry people from fishing them out. Slaughter the pigs and bury them, and let the putrescence drip down into the earth.

There is a crime here that goes beyond denunciation. There is a sorrow here that weeping cannot symbolize. There is a failure here that topples all our success. The fertile earth, the straight tree rows, the sturdy trunks, and the ripe fruit. And children dying of pellagra must die because a profit cannot be taken from an orange. And coroners must fill in the certificate- died of malnutrition- because the food must rot, must be forced to rot. The people come with nets to fish for potatoes in the river, and the guards hold them back; they come in rattling cars to get the dumped oranges, but the kerosene is sprayed. And they stand still and watch the potatoes float by, listen to the screaming pigs being killed in a ditch and covered with quick-lime, watch the mountains of oranges slop down to a putrefying ooze; and in the eyes of the people there is the failure; and in the eyes of the hungry there is a growing wrath. In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage.

John Steinbeck, The Grapes of Wrath

[-] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 28 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It seems to me that affordability starts with housing, because it is usually a household's single largest monthly expense. And it seems to me the best way to make housing more affordable is to make it non-profit. That doesn't necessarily mean city owned or other public housing, nor does it mean tax payer funded or subsidized housing, but having apartment buildings owned by a non-profit organization that charges tenants only enough rent to cover the organization's expenses without any extra going to an owner as profit. And the thing is, non-profit housing isn't only theoretical. It exists right now, but it's relatively rare. The reason is for-profit landlords don't want it because they can't compete.

Let's say you have two identical apartment buildings, but one is owned by a non-profit housing cooperative and the other is owned by a private landlord. The non-profit housing cooperative is going to have the same ongoing expenses (property management, maintenance, etc) as the private landlord, because the apartments are identical, but rent will be lower at the non-profit housing because they charge only enough rent to cover expenses whereas the private landlord charges rent to cover expenses plus some for his own personal profit.

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[-] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 23 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Credit where credit is due.

I live in NYC and voted for him, but I honestly thought he'd be bogged down by an entrenched bureaucracy and not actually do much.

It was worth the price of admission just to see the Lesbian Fire Commissioner.

edit = The Fire Commissioner was an EMS Chief before getting promoted. Back in 1995 most of the front line EMS workers hated the idea of being pulled into the Fire Department. They liked being independent. It took a long time, but now the tail is wagging the dog.

[-] Triumph@fedia.io 20 points 2 weeks ago

What I would give to be the person in charge of lesbian fires.

[-] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 15 points 2 weeks ago

You wouldn't last a minute at a lesbian fire.

[-] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 weeks ago

Ten seconds, fifteen if I've just been in a previous fire. I'm bi-flammable btw.

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[-] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It was worth the price of admission just to see the Lesbian Fire Commissioner.

Why? Is she building a series of canals to divert water for firefighting? Because that would be legit funny. Because it's a dike.

Happy pride month. I think/thought Lesbians took ownership of that term, stripped it if it's derogatory meaning... and I'm meaning it endearingly. Not like the F word. That's loaded with historical context and I wouldn't use that. That'd be like a white guy using the N-word endearingly...that's really just not possible. Exception for Bob Dillan in "Hurricane", of course. If I'm wrong please let me know.

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[-] Worstdriver@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

I work returns in a Costco. In fact, I'm typing this on my phone in the little office we have in receiving.

Food either gets sold or gets pulled for various reasons. Pulled food goes first to the local food banks. What can't go to them goes to a farm, a local pet rescue group, and to a wildlife rescue and rehabilitation group.

Anything left over from all that goes into a bin to be turned into high grade compost, which gets sold for $5 for a 20lb bag.

It takes time and money to do this, and it gets done anyway because the will is there.

[-] iocase@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 week ago

Me when there are Costcoposters

TBH though I love Costco. They actually pay their employees well, value their customers, and do things correctly. It's living proof that things could be different it's just a group of around 300 people set the incentive structures and propaganda used to program everyone and everything...

[-] Worstdriver@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Well, before Costco I worked at Walmart. You can imagine the difference in environment

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[-] lordziv@lemmy.nz 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

In my country I used to work at one of the largest supermarket chains and I was very pleasantly surprised to find that we donated any food that didn't sell to our local food bank called "Nourished For Nil" which would then take the ingredients and cook some meals and then you could go get a box of food from them once a week for free, no questions asked.

[-] Yliaster@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

He does sound like he's doing a lot more than the average politician rn, but I wonder if he's just gonna end up w a crossheir to his head for it.

[-] areakode@riskeratspizza.com 14 points 2 weeks ago

Going up against the Pedo class will always paint a target on people working to change the system. We need MORE Mamdanis in this world. Keep voting for the good guys!

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[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

I just woke up. I'm not even out of bed. Why you gotta make me sad before I've even put socks on???

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[-] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 12 points 2 weeks ago

We have too good to go, it's an app where shops can sell stuff that is near end of life at a discount. Some shops are better than others, we spent £3.99 for a portion at a local bakery recently and got 2 huge bags of baked goods.

Food doesn't get wasted and it costs very little compared to it's regular value. There is also a charity that focuses on similar things but ~~elitist cunts~~ friends and family have said I can't go there because I am not starving. They make it sound like a food bank when it's a shop selling products cheaply - or it was, they closed recently. Wanted to go but heavy social pressure/judgement not to put me off..

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[-] Hueristic_Autistic@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yes, yes and of we made everyone who makes 250k/yr pay 3865$/mo for ubi income of 1800$/mo for everyone in the country it would work out. It would take like 5 years for a solid treasury/trust to accumulate. It would be able to happen though.

[-] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I worked at Panera bread (not a grocery store at all) in college and we would donate the leftover baked goods at the end of every night to a food pantry thing. Also they would let us take some home too. It was pretty nice.

I think they are some kind of regional franchise though so it could have just been ours

[-] Impractical_Island@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

When I'm president, I'm going to spend every dicking dollar on education, so the masses understand that a single person doesn't make as much difference to 360M people as those 360M We the People do to themselves.

My twelfth grade English teacher told me the machines are broken, they just don't know they're broken, so the bigger machine made of machines grinds on. There's a scene in the matrix about this, how the average person is so dependent on the matrix they will fight to defend it.

What truly is possible to the human form? Society is 1776 updated to 2026. What if we just started fresh, what would we make and be then? Would it be 1776 2.0, or something else entirely? I think of democracy afforded in the modern day where only a republic was good enough before with the communication potential available then.

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

At least one local hypermarket does sell food at discounted price before they go off. Some poorer families rely on them.

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yeah, there's solutions to this problem and the idea that all of them don't do this a failing of the store's management.

France had to pass a law that banned food getting thrown out that could be given away.

I also noticed that Costco started offering more prepared chicken foods after it became more well known that their cheap rotisserie chickens would fill dumpsters at the end of the day.

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Supermarkets should be able to write off the expenses (transportation, stagging, etc) related to donating soon-to-expire foods to food banks. And not just normal income deductions, but actual direct deductions from taxes. That is, if you spend $1000 loading and shipping expired food to the food bank, you pay $1,000 less in taxes.

Truly incentivize giving food to the poor.

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[-] adarza@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 weeks ago

a few of the stores here, including both 'grocery' stores, do contribute close-dated and past-dated foodstuffs that isn't actually spoiled or bad to the local food pantry, who then distributes it to a huge line of people each week.

some weeks it's a pretty light box to pick up, but every now and then there will be a package of porterhouse or t-bones at the bottom of the box underneath all the "should've been eaten a week ago" produce.

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