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Maybe this is the kick up the arse companies need to finally start using hCaptcha or even Anubis.
I hope so, but it could easily come the other way. "We are so used to/deeply integrated/in a close strategic partnership with Google therefore we rather lose 5 % of our customers that care about privacy and are a pain in the ass for our data-driven business."
5% is huuuge overestimate. Maybe on a tech site or forum. On a regular website for the general public? Less than a rounding error. Remember, we are in a lemmy bubble
I know, it was largely exaggerated, but a smaller percentage makes the negative scenario drastically more realistic.
One can only hope. I know it likely won’t happen. But one has to have hope.
We've moved to Cloudflare's turnstile and it's significantly less obnoxious.
Fuck cloudflare in general though...
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Please not hCaptcha. It's basically guaranteed to generate infinite loops.
Can’t say I’ve come across that before
It's almost every time for me. Maybe they don't like my ad blocker or my browser's privacy settings but it's rare for hCaptcha to let me through after three or four repetitions.
Usually I give up after ten because of it won't let me in by then it won't let me in after a hundred. I tried.
It should work if you use a Firefox based browser with tracking protection set to strict and resistFingerprinting disabled, then use Jshelter with the following settings.
- Locally rendered images: Little lies
- Locally generated audio: Little lies
- WebAssembly speed-up: Enabled
- Everything else including Fingerprint Detector disabled
Then visit fingerprint.com in a normal window, then visit it again in private mode with a VPN or with a dufferent server selected. You will see that the ID is different both times which proves that you're protected.
As for the adblocker, just use uBlock Origin with the Quick Fixes list disabled as it may shadowban YouTube comments because their bot protection is silent.
That is... a rather byzantine list of requirements to get a captcha service to work as opposed to just running a Firefox derivative with tracking protection on standard and a default-configuration uBO (which is the specific configuration that led to the 100 repetitions, not some kind of recommendation).
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Yes just like they all actively support the Firefox browser...
This is a national security issue. A major corporation should not be able effectively impose a security ceiling by banning more secure operating systems (like GrapheneOS) due to it not making them money. Governments should pass regulations requiring any devices that meet certain security standards and support hardware attestation to be accepted by hardware attestation schemes. This will not pose an undue burden on businesses because you can easily add something like GrapheneOS to your scheme (https://grapheneos.org/articles/attestation-compatibility-guide), and even if it did, that doesn’t matter when national security is on the line.
Right now, it’s not as dire because you can still choose image or audio CAPTCHA, but I don’t know how long that will last, and getting the regulation out before the problem happens is better than after.
getting the regulation out before the problem happens is better than after
There's this weird effect where preventing a disaster is often invisible, sometimes looks detrimental or a waste of time; but responding to a problem and solving it is visible and will get you acclaim. That creates a cynical incentive to let a problem become visible before combating it so as to avoid the Kassandra effect where nobody believes you until it happens.
The whole "regulation is bad" scheme was bought and paid for with billions of dollars spent a small number of people who could make tens of billions by conducting their business without concern for the damage (economic externalities) they do. Its a transparent history and obvious on its face.
And yet so many average people go online and parrot it back, drinking the coolaid and passing it along.
This look le ke illégal, I guess they will shutdown internet for a big par of the population. And they I'll discover than internet traffic is less than 10% human.
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I personally have definitely encountered the point where I'm just not going to do some things merely because of "the principle".
I like that, and feel similarly.
Like, great, you add that 'feature' to your product. I'm just not going to use it anymore.
I mean yeah we crossed that point like 30 years ago lmao
I think everyone has their own tolerance.
I once heard someone say that everyone draws a line in the sand sometimes. And most often that line is right in front of where you're standing.
Remembering that helps me to be more conscious about my implicit biases and where I draw those lines.
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I don't even care about the inconvenience of doing everything myself, it just feels wrong to not be in control
Recaptcha has been trash for years now. Like, it either doesn't bock bots, or it blocks actual real people. Don't use it. Use turnstile.
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Monopoly or Duopoly. Either way, it's gotta be taken down.
It cannot be taken down unless there are many changes in several countries; however it will be quite the achievement to reform or have revolution in only one or two countries in the next generation.
The only hope in all this is that technology changes, and what Google has control over will be obsolete in a decade or more.
Cold comfort.
Need another Roosevelt to come along and take an anti-monopoly hammer to these big companies and shatter them into pieces
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I've started the transition away from Google. Sucks because, sometimes, it was really convenient. But now, screw 'em.
Convenience is how they get you. I have also been telling people for years that security and convenience are opposite ends of the same line. The closer you are to one the farther you are from the other.
~~Security~~ Privacy. They are distinct concepts.
For example, tokenised and biometrically authenticated transactions are more secure and more convenient than cash payments which are comparatively riskier, easier to forge, easier to steal etc.
However, this allows banks and payment providers to keep tabs on your transaction data, which cash does not.
Convenience and privacy are usually at opposite ends, security can come at either end depending on the medium.
Biometrics are not more secure, because you can be forced to give it against your will.
Fingerprint? They can force your finger onto the scanner.
Eye scan/Face Scan? They can put you in a headlock and hold the phone infront of you.
You cant be manhandled into typing a password.
Biometic security is convenience, not security.
It is more secure.
It's much easier to steal cash than to force someone to unlock a device and make a payment, so yes it is more secure.
I didn't say 100% unbeatable.
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Secure, convenient, private. Pick two.
Yep, which is also why paper ballots are still the de facto standard for democratic elections. Digital voting which is verifiable and yet anonymous is very difficult to get right, especially when it needs to be accessible enough for every citizen to understand.
Cash is only "less convenient" for the banks and businesses that would prefer to track you. A cashless society is a society fully stripped of privacy, a society where poor people are guaranteed to stay poor, and where only the rich can afford privacy and security.
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People are so oblivious to this shit.
... OK, no, there's a slow dawning that online privacy is important for many reasons, but it never seems to translate into action. Probably largely because there's hardly any consumer alternatives. Employers have been renewing contracts with Big Tech for decades and can't be arsed to even think about changing their behavior.
They're still going to buy new surveillophones just to be able to log in again.
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Everyone needs to flood the web with fake reCAPTCHA QR codes that lead to something that looks malicious to the average person.
LOOKS malicious? Why not just BE malicious? That's way more lucrative if we're at that point.
Looking malicious just trains users that it's probably ok to do X on sketchy sites...
Send them to lemonparty
This happens on Linux via Edge Suite.
They block my ability to use quite a few websites. I’ve tried changing my user agent amongst many other solutions but it never works. My IP is not blacklisted.
I GUESS YOU DIDNT WANT ME TO BUY ANYTHING ON YOUR GODDAMN SITE ANYWAY.
Quick question: If Google doesn't want to own Android anymore, why don't they make it public domain instead of trying everything to kill it?
Because they'd rather own the public
They want Android very much and all the data that goes with it.
They don’t want you to use Android in a way that doesn't let them harvest your data.
This. It’s shocking how many people in tech circles still see Google as anything other than a data harvester for ads.
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The robots were about to kill me and my entire family when I said "Look! A stop sign!". They immediately recognized my superior intelligence and retreated. /s
It's funny because my town just posted an article saying a bunch of people got scammed by fake ones already.
Is the recaptcha on Google search engine, apps, android os more than one? or is it strictly 3rd party websites?
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