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[-] ceenote@lemmy.world 114 points 1 month ago

Let me ask Facebook how credible this study is...

[-] slaacaa@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

@Grok, is this legit?

Tap for spoiler/s

[-] yogurtwrong@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

*grok speaks against the favor of petroleum industry and is taken offline to be lobotomized yet another time*

[-] jqubed@lemmy.world 84 points 1 month ago

What we really should have done is made the Car Talk guys president. If there's one thing I know for sure, it's that those two would never have forced me to listen to what some MIT grad thinks.

Absolute gold! (The hosts of Car Talk were both MIT grads)

[-] itisileclerk@lemmy.world 70 points 1 month ago

MIT Study VS Facebook posts. Hard choice.

[-] D_C@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Well the Misinformation Institute of Technology just cannot be trusted. It's in the name!!

[-] FatVegan@leminal.space 15 points 1 month ago

Everyone who was around during the pandemic knows that facebook is gonna win

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[-] luthis@lemmy.nz 50 points 1 month ago

Yeah but I heard this one scientist said one time that EVs actually cause more cancers and make trees grow less leaves

[-] EvergreenGuru@lemmy.world 50 points 1 month ago

EVs beat me up and killed my dog.

[-] lemmyng@lemmy.world 37 points 1 month ago

EVs stole my wife and shot my kids.

[-] TheHotze@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago

EVs turned me into a newt!

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[-] turtlesareneat@piefed.ca 11 points 1 month ago

Trans trees! And bushes! Trans nature!

Is that what you want!?

[-] FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

The solar panels on my roof that I use to charge my car suck up all the sun and stop my grass growing

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[-] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 49 points 1 month ago

Science back then: after long work we were able to create a vaccine, and we managed to eradicate small pox completely.

Science now: we did a study to prove something on Facebook isn't true.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

To be fair the scientists only invented the vaccine, and modern scientists are inventing plenty of vaccines and medical technologies today, including vaccines for infamously difficult to stop diseases like HIV.

Eradicating smallpox was a feat of international cooperation and administration. If we put in the effort in those areas today we could eliminate measles or polio. Or in the near future we could begin the process of eliminating HIV (it would take a long time because it's not a death sentence anymore). Now I'm mad we aren't engaged in a global fight to eliminate HIV the way we did for smallpox.

[-] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 41 points 1 month ago

Speaking as someone who has worked on plenty of gasoline powered cars.... Duh. The most obvious waste product an internal combustion car makes other than the exhaust is the used oil. Have to do something with it. Have to make sure the engine isn't leaking out into the environment when it's running.

Even if you are charging your car from a coal plant, it's more efficient. A coal power plant runs at one speed/output all the time. Gas cars have to throttle up and down. Each gas car has to be maintained by the person owning it, while the power plant has a maintenance team and inspections.

[-] Soup@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago

Also to the throttling up and down, the power plant, or even a gasoline generator sitting in the car itself, will always run at peak efficiency. Even a gasoline car sitting on the highway for 4hrs isn’t running at peak efficiency and a lot of that energy is lost in heat through the transmission.

[-] eleitl@lemmy.zip 40 points 1 month ago

I can tell you that keeping an existing decent ICE is better than buying a new EV. But once you have to buy a new car anyway, and an EV fits your usage pattern and operational environment there are no reasons not to buy one.

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[-] ComradeRachel 36 points 1 month ago

The batteries do contain rare minerals like lithium but these can be recovered and recycled. EVs can be charged with solar, wind and other renewables even tho many places in the USA still burn coal or natural gas.

Once you burn gasoline in your ICE vehicle then it’s gone, it turns into gasses that go into the atmosphere and can’t easily be recovered into anything of much use.

EVs are the future and we all know it. Gasoline will continue to become more expensive and more difficult to extract.

[-] TheMinister@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 month ago

I’d argue with the level of shit were in with the climate, the no cars lifestyle should be the future.

[-] ComradeRachel 8 points 1 month ago

It might be in a few nations with strong public transit already like Japan and a number or European nations but honestly idk if it will ever happen in the USA at least not in my life time.

[-] Folstar@lemmus.org 7 points 1 month ago

We went from zero cars to everything covered in cars in a lifetime, we can go back in a lifetime.

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[-] toxicbubble@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago

worst part of getting old is watching everyone around you gradually get dumber

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago

The only “everyone” are trolls, paid or otherwise, the ignorant, and right wingnuts parroting the trolls and ignorant.

And there are a shitload of them who all seem to want to show off that opinion.

[-] mysteryhumpf@feddit.org 8 points 1 month ago

Half my family believes this it’s one of the major reason they don’t switch to EVs despite being believers of climate change.

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[-] iopq@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

That does sound like everyone on Facebook

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[-] muhyb@programming.dev 18 points 1 month ago

Hey, I did my own research!!!!1!1!!

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[-] schnapsman@feddit.org 14 points 1 month ago

I didn't realise anyone still uses facebook. Like in developed countries I mean.

[-] appauled@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I live in Atlanta and when I turned 21 (a couple years ago, but post 2020) I was kinda irritated because literally everything in the entire city was planned on Facebook Events, and I hated using Facebook.

It's overwhelmingly popular, especially in the 30+ crowd, not even restricted to your 55+. Genuinely everyone would create Facebook events (before Partiful got popular) to invite people over on a Saturday

Edit: spelling

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[-] Doomsider@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

Burning petroleum is one of the most destructive things you can do and it is absolutely common to do it. Everyday a single vehicles emits enough pollution to kill countless people. It gives them cancer and when combined with lead has resulted in hundreds of millions of deaths. It is absolutely insane people continue supporting this technology.

[-] drosophila 26 points 1 month ago

Everyday a single vehicles emits enough pollution to kill countless people.

Considering that since there are over 1.6 billion cars in use worldwide, I think if each one killed more than one person per day there would soon be none of us left.

Collectively they do cause some 246,000 deaths each year, from pollution alone, with several times that figure being attributable to motor vehicle collisions. So I do think the regular use of fossil fuel vehicles needs to be phased out, along with a drastic reduction in personal vehicle use in general in urban areas and the implementation of systematic safety principles in road design.

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[-] drmoose@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

A second hand ICE car is still better than a new EV though.

We kinda solved cars 15 years ago as an ICE car from 2010 is almost indistinguishable from a new one. I'm waiting for my 2008 toyota to retire but it just keeps on going to the point where I think it'll last me 10 more years. I don't drive much but it takes e20 as fuel (heavily dilutated gasoline) and with CVT gearbox it's super cheap to maintain so I really don't feel like me upgrading to an EV would make any difference other than promote EV infrastructure.

My next car will definitely be an EV though primary because I expect battery tech to be much better by then.

[-] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 8 points 1 month ago

A second hand EV is better than a second hand gas car though, so... What's your point? What's with this entirely outdated talking point at all? There are EVs old enough to vote.

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[-] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 month ago

that college buddy who dropped grad school to become a chiropractor

Gold.

[-] Mac@mander.xyz 7 points 1 month ago

I genuinely thought i misread the title... Wtf

[-] EatMyPixelDust 6 points 1 month ago

Of course fossil fuels are worse, but that doesn't mean EVs are a magically green utopia machine either.

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[-] Kintarian@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Gas cars are better! (says the gas station owner)

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