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A second hand ICE car is still better than a new EV though.
We kinda solved cars 15 years ago as an ICE car from 2010 is almost indistinguishable from a new one. I'm waiting for my 2008 toyota to retire but it just keeps on going to the point where I think it'll last me 10 more years. I don't drive much but it takes e20 as fuel (heavily dilutated gasoline) and with CVT gearbox it's super cheap to maintain so I really don't feel like me upgrading to an EV would make any difference other than promote EV infrastructure.
My next car will definitely be an EV though primary because I expect battery tech to be much better by then.
A second hand EV is better than a second hand gas car though, so... What's your point? What's with this entirely outdated talking point at all? There are EVs old enough to vote.
Sadly the second hand ev market doesn't exist everywhere.
Yeah I guess India where they're still working on adopting anything that isn't either a moped or 2 ton diesel, but pretty much everywhere else you can get a second hand EV. Even in the rural US.
Source? Cause the world is bigger than USA and India. You are just an ignorant biggot.
Sure, Chinese EVs have been popular in Africa, South America, Russia, and South East Asia for the last five years, which covers 75% of humanity.
The Racist Anglosphere and the underdeveloped slave capital of the world India are the ones far behind the curve, but Europe seems to be coming to their senses so that really just leaves India and the other developing country of the US.
Everywhere there's a strong primary sales market, there's a strong secondary sales market.
Also it's not bigoted to point out India's massive internal failing to develop even close to the same pace as China despite having a twenty year head start and much more western investment. The country in taking after its western masters decided against communism (for the most part) and has obviously suffered greatly for it. But hey, they get to be the underpaid call center workers of the western world, hurting western countries and bringing in so much... oh... oh no... what happened to all the money.
5 years enough to develop a second hand market? I double dare you to go on any 2nd hand market website of these countries and prove it to me. Lmao what an utter bafoon you are.
You can buy EVs secondhand. You'd be hard pressed to find a sub 10k EV "beater" but there are plenty of used EVs in the 15-25k price range in my area, and are equivalent in features to used cars in the same bracket.
You can't really. The world is a bit bigger than you think and mass adoption global cars like byd dolphin etc. Only started appear 4 years ago. So how can a second hand ev market develop?
Huh, I didn't realize you can't buy second hand EVs. Gonna have a tough time explaining the my wife why the Mustang is gone.
You know other countries have had EVs for just as long as the US?
Nope, prove it then. Show me the numbers I'll wait. 2nd hand ev market is basically non existent still.
Maybe just try googling it? Nah, you'd probably whine about being told to do that...
https://www.theparking.eu/used-cars/#%21%2F%3Fid_energie=2&id_pays=23
Took less than 2 minutes, and there you go, looks like you can view used EV listings in ~60 different countries on that site alone.
What a small world view you must have, to think that used electric cars only exist in the USA....
That's like what, around 2000 cars listed there? Versus hundreds of thousands of ice cars? Lmao
One site. 2 minutes.
And if you'd bothered to actually look, you would have noticed that there were 500,000+ EVs listed.
You were wrong about a non-existent used EV market. It's not a big deal, just take the L, learn from this to think first, then form an opinion, and then post, and move on with your life.
Just to thoroughly put this to bed... Here is the per-capital EV adoption rates in 2021
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_car_use_by_country
The US is nowhere close to the leaders on that chart. EV markets are actually better in many other places than they are in the US, and speaking from experience, I had no trouble finding a wide selection of secondhand EVs to purchase when I bought my car about a year and a half ago.
In summary... You're painfully, obviously wrong, and that is okay. Continuing to defend a point solely "supported" by ignorance and prejudice, is not.
Your own picture says 0.5M vs 18 MILLION. come on dude.
So what? 500,000 is still 250x better than the number you pulled out of your ass instead of actually reading and researching. It's 250x better than what you thought.
And in case you missed it, there are plenty of other countries that have a higher ratio of EVs to ICEs than the US.
So the fact that there are more EVs to ICEs in other countries, and the fact that it's possible to buy an EV in the US despite it's low market penetration, means your statement about buying secondhand EVs...
Is absolutely fucking wrong.
If you want to argue this point further, show up with some actual data to defend your point in your next post, like maybe an article talking about how there are 0 used EV sales outside the US. Otherwise, you aren't arguing in good faith, and you can be ignored for being a pissant little ankle-biter picking a fight for the sake of fighting.
Nah dude you should really concede this. It's hard to find a good 2nd hand ice car fit for many working class people as is and you're claiming that 40 TIMES smaller market is OK? Crazy, absolutely bonkers - I suggest you take a break and touch some grass.
Ah, so nothing but rhetoric pulled out of your ass is your only defense for being a bigot. You are now blocked for being a disingenuous troll. Go bother someone else.
I feel you. My 20 year old Honda that I bought for $3k cash 3 years ago is reliable and easy to work on.
I do like the idea of not ever buying gasoline again, but I also like the idea of a $32 a month insurance payment and no car note, too...
It's amazing how this article ignores this obvious fact and even more amazing that people downvote it.
Don't forget the shitty electronics and spyware in newer cars.