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[-] rtxn@lemmy.world 155 points 1 month ago

I see a lot of defeatist commenters are content to lie down and let this be the end result. I'll let the man himself explain why this isn't the end: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgoODQFrPgw&t=734s

tl;dw: There is a much broader support for SKG in the European Parliament, the other legislative body besides the EC. They can't introduce new legislation, but they can modify existing legislation; specifically, SKG is targeting the Digital Fairness Act.

[-] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 67 points 1 month ago

Definitely not the end of the movement, but it's still disappointing that they reached anything other than the obvious conclusion with so much grassroots support.

[-] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 46 points 1 month ago

Expected, though. The EC is not exactly known for having sensible opinions.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 43 points 1 month ago

There is a much broader support for SKG in the European Parliament, the other legislative body besides the EC

Ah, the one that's actually VOTED for (rather than appointed by "The Council") is more responsive to the will of the people! Imagine that!

[-] absquatulate@lemmy.world 143 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Goddamn it. Lobbying wins again

[-] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 60 points 1 month ago

Lobbying will always win until people start busting out guillotines

[-] purple_mimosa@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago

it's literally corruption with makeup.

[-] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago

People like to say the US is a corrupt cess pool, and they're right, but so is the rest of the world. EU isn't an exception when corporate profit are on the line.

[-] Chee_Koala@lemmy.world 75 points 1 month ago

"They say that existing EU consumer law "already provides for important safeguards protecting the economic interests of consumers", and note that video game publishers have to inform about "the duration and the conditions for terminating the contract before the consumers signs up for the video game"."

Well that would be cool, but anything about the duration and conditions for terminating the contract i've ever read on boxes or terms of service is: " We can do whatever we like, whenever we like, just so we're clear' (im slightly paraphrasing). So it sound to me like the EC says: " Well these sellers said fuck you up front so they're immune to any responsibility". Cool, cool. I saw a digital fairness act, but maybe we can hang something up in the mandated warranty tree? So if a game shuts down in 6 months barring you from playing, you would be entitled to some form of restitution instead of hoping the dev has morals.

Still doesn't solve that corpo's have their fingers over the killbuttons on our cultural heritage existence, so, you know, there's a lot of work to do still.

[-] Patrikvo@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 month ago

o it sound to me like the EC says: " Well these sellers said fuck you up front so they’re immune to any responsibility"

Upfront? As in the UELA you get to read after opening the box, at which point you can't return the game anymore?

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[-] Hond@piefed.social 69 points 1 month ago

As it is the tradition in the sector, I hope the industry will listen to player communities and agree on better sunsetting standards so communities can continue to meet and play together.

lol. lmao even.

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 34 points 1 month ago

Industry? Listening to customers?

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[-] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 62 points 1 month ago

The European Comission being corrupt as fuck really doesn't help with growing anti-EU sentiments. This is why people lose faith in the EU.

Prosecute Ursula von der Leyen for treason and crimes against the European Union. Dissolve the European Comission and/or give more power to the European Parliament.

How are we supposed to be the leading democracy if only the arbitrarily-appointed commissioners can introduce new legislation?

How is it a functional democracy if one of the most successful citizens' initiative is essentially being ignored, because it doesn't align with corporate interests?

President von der Leyen, along with the rest of the European Comission, are digging the entire European Union's grave. And they're doing a very good job, unfortunately.

[-] Tommelot@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago
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[-] atro_city@fedia.io 56 points 1 month ago

What the fuck @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu ? You are listening to people who don't represent the majority of users. Fuck you.

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[-] SoupBrick@pawb.social 45 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Good video to show how bs the corpo claims are. Especially the licensing claims.

I think this video is specifically for the California bill, but similar arguments are being used against both initiatives.

https://youtu.be/CgoODQFrPgw

[-] kalapala@sopuli.xyz 33 points 1 month ago

Corruption. Corruption everywhere.

[-] Eternal192@anarchist.nexus 27 points 1 month ago

Never had any faith in them anyway, just empty old suits that should have retired 20 years ago and now just want to get a bit more money before they keel over.

Best solution is to just stop buying games and go back to piracy, only way to keep your games these days.

[-] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The reason these games can be destroyed is that even piracy is often impossible. The ones you're pirating are more often than not going to be the ones that were never at risk of being targeted by this initiative.

[-] Eternal192@anarchist.nexus 11 points 1 month ago

Then start considering buying games that you can also get through piracy, as long as you keep giving them money and allowing them control nothing will change.

[-] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Way ahead of you.

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[-] MagnificentSteiner@lemmy.zip 26 points 1 month ago

TLDR "we have been successfully lobbied/bribed/corrupted into doing nothing (we may end up making it easier for publishers to do whatever they want)".

Lot of EU supremacist/jingoist gamers gonna be feeling some serious cognitive dissonance tonight.

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[-] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

EU commission does what everyone expected them to do: Deciding based on what wealthy lobby groups tell them.

[-] mrfriki@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago

I knew this was coming and still somehow feel disappointed.

[-] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 month ago

Nobody voted for paper straws, glued bottletaps or AliExpress tariffs. Enough people voted for this.

EU is hardly a democracy. More like an enlightened despotism. "All for the people, but without the people".

[-] Jiral@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I get the feeling you are not really aware of how the EU functions. Despotism is absolutist rule, calling that the EU or any EU institution is pretty absurd and detached from reality. There is hardly a political entity, less centralised than the EU, still capable of routinely drafting common legislation. Also, while there is a democratic deficit (but hardly larger than in many other democracies nowadays), the Commission is elected into power by the directly elected European Parliament and can't pass ordinary legislation without a majority in the EP in support of it and the latter having the power to amend the hell out of it, if it doesn't outright veto it straight away.

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[-] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Fuck the Eu Commission. They are traitors to everything the EU stands for. They deserve to burn with every billionaire on this planet.

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[-] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Hey, maybe it's not that EU is a failed and totally corrupt state but they simply don't care about video games that much? You know, with global economic crisis on the horizon, new war in the middle east, growing threat from Russia and the collapse of NATO? Is that possible?

[-] reksas@sopuli.xyz 15 points 1 month ago

then why not do as people ask if they dont care?

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[-] nicpicname@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 month ago

I come to distrust the EU with opinions like this every day

[-] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Realistically though, it can be quite a complicated situation. One I've written about numerous times before. Servers behind the scenes can be incredibly complex, especially when it comes to games that have DLC and micro-transactions. And then you have to add to that the licensing on music and other things. Plus various other things I'm not thinking of right now

Holy lazy writing Batman!

As if this all wasn't adressed by SKG 100 times before. Did the author never hear about SKG before writing this article?

[-] fdnomad@programming.dev 12 points 1 month ago
[-] mecen@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Is there something we can do? One more petition, with already debunked lobbyist lies? I will sign it again.

[-] reksas@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

list everyone who voted for rejection, dig up what else they have been up to, make sure people know and will not forget. no peace for these assholes. even if it doesnt do anything, just having them think it might do something is enough.

these people have prevented other laws too or voted for shitty ones. And, if naming and shaming them isnt part of democracy then we have no democracy at all as then actions can't have consequences.

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[-] cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 month ago

I very much doubt this will be the straw that breaks the camel's back and causes us to rebel against the system and tear down these structures of oppression that benefit business and capital at the expense of people and humanity. But it could be, and that excites me.

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