"autopilot" shouldn't even be used on a narrow residential street like that.
Are people stupid enough to actually trust Tesla's autopilot, or do they do it on purpose to then sue Tesla?
Nevermind, I know the answer...
It works well, until it doesn't. That first part lulls people into complacency. I rented a Kia last year that had automatic cruise control and lane keep assist and it kept me on the road far past when I should have pulled over and taken a nap from being sleep deprived after a redeye flight. Dangerous? Yes. Skill issue? Maybe. What I took away from the experience is that it is frighteningly easy to get used to a thing "just working" and forget about its limitations when it is convenient. I also learned that I do not want lane keep assist or automatic cruise control in my personal car.
This is basically automation bias you’re describing and it’s what scares the hell out of me with these “FSD” teslas on the road.
Even if you were able to keep constantly alert during the 99% of the time where this works (which I think is close to humanly impossible) why would you want a system that doesn’t offload you at all? The only value of this system is if people ignore the limitations and allow themselves to zone out - the rest of us are at risk when it goes wrong!
I use lane assist and traffic aware cruise to keep my shoulders and (bad) knee physically relaxed on long highway stretches. That said, I would probably choose to tolerate the inevitable day of neck and/or knee pain if it meant no one was using this stuff. Automation bias is scary.
Did the road runner paint a tunnel on it again?
This is a murder idea right here.
A YouTube already proved that Teslas autopilot would drive straight through a portrait of a road. Since it only uses cameras without other tech like lidar
Later he was fined by the HOA because the garage door being open since 20 minutes
The sentence structure that people from different non-english-speaking countries use is really interesting.
After working with so many people from India, I would guess this person was originally from there. "Since 20 minutes" is a fairly common way that they say it.
That's bad that the car's software confused a closed garage door for a kid.
This is crazy, I was in a parking lot yesterday and saw someone have their Tesla driver right up to them to pick them up in the parking lot with no driver inside. Kind of pissed me off I was so near in the same parking lot that was operating on its own, with my wife and nieces. I know Elon Musk wouldn't give one fuck about me if his dumbass machine ran me or mine right over
You couldn't pay me to drive a Tesla, and that's doubly true for Tesla on "autopilot".
Why is this person called a driver?
Bet they are lying and just pressed the wrong pedal by themselves. Bet they were on their phone, the cruise control beeped and then they panicked and floored it. Insurance companies probably have to deal with a ton of Tesla owners who are blaming the Autopilot for a mistake the driver made, even when the cruise control wasn't used.
Seems like a pretty risky lie as the car should have logs saying exactly what happened (at least to the level of detail of cruise control + accelerator vs self-driving).
Until Tesla scrubs that from their log again like they were already caught doing once
I thought they stopped calling it autopilot due to legal stuff and such, or has that not gone through yet?
It's "full self driving (supervised)" last I checked.
Autopilot isnt FSD Supervised.
Autopilot just keeps you in lane and distanced from a lead car, mainly meant for highways/ freeways. A combination of auto steer (for lane) and traffic aware cruise control.
FSD Supervised is meant for anywhere and will take turns, change lanes, stop for lights etc.
They no longer sell or include AP, and its been renamed to something involving autosteer for existing owners. New purchases can only subscribe to FSD Supervised now.
They might be one of the only major OEMs that dont include any kind of lane keeping in their cars now, which is pretty much standard now.
They no longer sell or include AP
That's true only in the USA and Canada. You can still get autopilot in most of the world, especially in countries where FSD isn't approved.
I saw my first Tesla this week with the "I bought this before Elon went nuts" bumper sticker. I don't give a fuck when you bought that garbage, its a fucking dangerous piece of shit and shouldn't be on the roads with real cars. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for EVs taking over the market, just as long as they aren't teslas.
You don't have to use the self driving features of a Tesla. As long as we're not talking about Cybertrucks, they're still a regular car with mechanically connected steering and brakes.
The back seats not having manual releases and other baffling design decisions might be dangerous for the people inside, but I don't really have a problem being on the road next to them.
I'm not a fan of Elon or Tesla, just for the record. So I hate to actually be the one defending them. But I'm guessing on the same exact day about 12 people drove through their garage doors, NOT in Teslas.
The reporting states the driving mode in question was Tesla's "autopilot system," instead of the proper Autopilot, which is Tesla's less advanced driving system. Full Self-Driving (Supervised) is Tesla's more capable feature, although its name is a misnomer, since it's not capable of fully driving itself and requires constant supervision.
I feel like this section needs a rewrite. What is the distinction they're drawing between "Tesla's 'autopilot system'" and "Autopilot"?
It's hard to describe these modes because Tesla purposefully blurs and obfuscates what they actually can/cannot do (like giving them names that are basically synonyms.) Typical confuseopoly strategy.
I swear most Teslas I hear driving always have a “rattle” when they go over bumps. Sounds like bad build quality, I rarely hear other cars with the issue. For sure seem like poorly made cars.
Pretty unlikely. No third party analysis of the logs? Just putting this out there as "driver says"
Very basic autonomous systems can avoid collision with a large flat stationary surface.
The ones with actual sensors can, anyway.
I get what you're referencing (lack of radar, lidar etc.), but objectively a camera is a sensor in the exact same way as the others, that's not even up for discussion.
It's a sensor relying on image recognition, which is only as reliable as the image recognition software. The more clever software tries to be, the more potential failure states that exist.
teslas can't. As has been proven multiple times, even wile e coyote style
Very basic autonomous systems can avoid collision with a large flat stationary surface.
I guess Tesla's systems don't even qualify as very basic. Here's a video from as far back as 2020. Tesla crashes straight into a huge flat surface.
There's so many more examples if you go looking.
I have an older Teala with AP, and I dont understand how this is possible...
You can't engage it on your driveway. It'll say its unavailable. You gotta be moving a bit first on a roadway.
If he was on the roadway and turning into his driveway, AP cant make turns, so thats not possible.
He could have had traffic aware cruise control on, and auto steer off so he could steer it, but then he's the one who drove it into the garage.
Edit: maybe a cul du sac where he's at the end and itd drive straight up, but he wouldn't have been able to turn onto it, which means he would have had to turn it on just for the small street?
Edit: and if they story is it went off the road into the garage on its own with a sudden turn... check that angle out. Its not like it came in on a shallow angle veering off the road, its almost 90 degrees to the garage from a short driveway...
The article suggests it wasn't the driver's garage. The driver's story seems to be "It was driving itself happily and then went mad and crashed into this random person's garage!".
It's down to the crash investigators to find out whether that's the truth, or the driver crashed it themselves and then just blamed the AP.
Ya i better understood that just a few moments ago. The angle it went into the house seems pretty suspicious still. Thats a pretty sharp turn vs if it tried to dodge an imaginary deer for example.
As the article states, they may have meant FSD. Which people very frequently call Autopilot.
Wyl E. Coyote with the paint.
Autopilot*
*not actually autopilot
so fukn misleading. elon should be sued for billions
these fukn technocrats are all shitbags, and deserve to be taxed to hell
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