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[-] regdog@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

"Facts that happen to be true" what kind of orwellian speak is this?

[-] Archimedes@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

Welcome to the future, it's post-truth here.

[-] MoonRaven@feddit.nl 55 points 2 days ago

"facts that happen to be true" aka facts

[-] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 41 points 2 days ago

~~mis~~information campaign

[-] sommerset@thelemmy.club 9 points 2 days ago
[-] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 281 points 3 days ago

Damn the evil CCCCP and their nefarious plot to *checks notes* tell the truth

[-] CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world 138 points 3 days ago

The best propaganda is always the truth.

[-] RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip 51 points 3 days ago

Genuinely why I hate anti-america/anti-capitalism propaganda based off lies. You don't need to lie when just telling the truth is damning. The lies just undermine everything when they're exposed, makes people question even the facts.

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[-] Korkki@lemmy.ml 34 points 3 days ago

The best propaganda is always the truth.

When they shut down the RT America studio under the foreign agents law and direct TV intervention, they did interviews with the ex-RT dissident-esq reporters who were working there. I don't remember who, and who was interviewing, so take this with a grain of salt. When they were asked on the lines of how they felt working for Russian propaganda and information campaign. They said along the lines of that of all the networks they had worked on, they were never felt as free as when they worked on RT, and they were quite open that it was all part of bringing up narratives that would disrupt the American mainstream ones and create political disruption and doubt. Their handlers in Moscow knew that the best way to achieve this was just to give them reach and mostly uncensored platform and let them do mostly whatever they want, because they knew that just bringing out the truth was the most damaging thing to American establishment.

[-] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago

they were never felt as free as when they worked on RT

I assume these reporters were not the ones reporting on the state of russia

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[-] hark@lemmy.world 129 points 2 days ago

OpenAI has published a report

Into the trash it goes.

[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 23 points 2 days ago

Free toilet paper 😃😃

[-] ButteredBread@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 days ago

Don't use that toilet paper, it's bad for you.

[-] gnate@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

From trash to trash, dust to dust

[-] SippyCup@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

Garbage in, garbage out

[-] Chais@sh.itjust.works 57 points 2 days ago

Those evil Chinese propagandists! How dare they… *flips through notes* tell the truth!?

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Eh, propaganda isn't about truth or fiction, it's about manipulating media to push a narrative.

[-] nomy@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 days ago

Like every CEO and corpo does every single day, they don't get the benefit of the doubt anymore.

[-] popekingjoe@lemmy.world 140 points 3 days ago

So... So they ran an information campaign?

[-] turtlesareneat@piefed.ca 82 points 2 days ago
[-] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 2 days ago
[-] OpenStars@piefed.social 11 points 2 days ago

Sigh... no, they don't actually.

[-] ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Anyone saying anything true about the american tech industry, or about anything at all, could be a secret asset in the employ of the Chinese government. They can't be trusted.

[-] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 175 points 3 days ago

"Facts that happened to be true"

Please, shut the fuck up. Fucking shut the fuck up. I am at the end of my wits with this place.

[-] T156@lemmy.world 35 points 3 days ago

As opposed to, what, facts that aren't true? Those aren't facts at all.

[-] SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago

"Alternative facts"

[-] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 20 points 3 days ago

As opposed to just calling them facts because they are.

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[-] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Another beacon of truth from the company of Sam Altman, known for his honesty and forthrightness

[-] Solrac@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

"These dirty commies! Making everyone woke with their factually correct propaganda! They just want lil ol me to not have my american dream!"

[-] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

I don't think China cares about US that much ngl.

[-] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I mean, in the context of AI development itself, there's the possible angle that China/Chinese AI companies would do this to attempt to slow down American based AI development in an effort to surpass them, but...yeah seems pretty goofy tbh.

They're clearly trying to claw at anything to redirect attention from data centers fucking everyone over.

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[-] Iusedtobeanalien@lemmy.world 42 points 2 days ago

Sam Altman seems to be a massive cunt

[-] mgrecca2026@lemmy.zip 22 points 2 days ago

He raped his younger sister

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[-] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 66 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

The real story is not about Chines influence on data center opinion.

Its openai reading conversations of their customers.

I mean we all already assumed they do before but this is so blatend, it smells like manufactured consent. You need to go from “suspect it happens” to “its normal to be like this”

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[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Yeah this is why everyone hates sam altman and not because he's just going around saying that AI companies are worth more than the entirety of planet earth combined.

[-] utopiah@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

Ugh, people with those pesky facts, very inconvenient! /s

[-] vegafjord@slrpnk.net 30 points 3 days ago

Why the fuck make up lies for your propaganda when you dont have to.

[-] BOplaid@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

PRC ain't good but this is absurd. Fuck ClosedAI

[-] motruck@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 days ago

So we wre listening to OpenAI on this one? Sure prove any of this you lying sack of shit Sam Altman. All these pyschos running companies.

#stoplisteningtoceos

[-] elbiter@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Everything they told us about capitalism... turned out to be true.

[-] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 19 points 3 days ago

Thanks China

[-] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 26 points 3 days ago

They asked ChatGPT about how to influence Americans views on AI, apparently.

Sure thing.

[-] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 days ago

I’m sure it was China and not the fact that AI is causing layoffs, increased prices, and harm to our communities.

[-] sommerset@thelemmy.club 4 points 2 days ago

Can I just say that the fact openai just reads our chats....
It is just that I feel like the general public does not fully comprehend it

[-] Alpha71@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

Fun Fact: the American Govt. has okay'ed giving China GPU's now that they get a cut of the profits. 🙄

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago

Yeah data center bad, but what kills me is the water use thing.

It really seems to rankle peoples bungle, and in both directions, that yes data-center water use is bad, but its just utterly dwarfed in comparison to forms sources of water use. And this is something I can speak to with a fair bit of expertise, in that I've worked extensively in developing water-use analyses for water districts, cities, counties, states, etc. Its just a scale issue and like with that recent Hank Green video about recycling, people truly don't understand how many people there are.

For example, take the MAWA equation (mean average water allowance). Typical indoor water allotment (and there is alot of data to back this up) is about 200 gallons (750 liters) per person per residence per day. That includes toilets, showers, cooking, washing clothing etc..

So lets take the recent number from that NYT article about its data centers water use. I think the number was 2.5 billion gallons?

73,000 gallons would be the average per-person-per-structure indoor only water allotment, which again, is pretty well established.

2.5 billion divided by 73k is about 35k, which is a bit of an over estimate but makes no matter.

All of Amazons datacenters combined "used", and I use "used" lightly here because its not like the water disappeared, but it used less water than a small American town. All of their datacenters combined.

Using duckduckgo to get numbers on this..

Just.. put it into context. Say 1lb of beef takes about 2k gallons of water to produce. The average American consumes 50lbs of beef per year. So an average town of say.. 35k people would go through 3.5 billion gallons of water in beef consumption alone, annually.

And the same equations are going to hold for practically everything else humans consume. Its just... its all a matter of scale. And I agree, datacenters are not good. But the water-use argument is weak when you consider just.. something basic and well established like beef consumption, or golf courses. 2.5 billion gallons is like, 120 golf courses worth of water. Its practically nothing.

[-] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 days ago

120 golf courses is a fuckload of wasted water. That isn't as persuasive as you seem to think it is.

[-] VeganCheesecake 8 points 2 days ago

There are 16000 golf courses in the US.

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[-] zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 days ago

OpenAI still acts like there are absolutely none Chinese LLM. Sounds more like a fever dream. I wonder if they also did the exact checks on American user accounts and I am quite certain you will also see hundreds of Americans prompting the same thing.

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