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[-] VetOfTheSeas@discuss.online 186 points 1 month ago
[-] lime@feddit.nu 96 points 1 month ago

these symbols seem to render very differently on different devices. i got a wheel of hatchets, an eight-pointed star, and two futhark runes on desktop.

...which is why it's at the very least irresponsible for them to send something like this. if there is actually intent here that only makes it worse.

[-] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 156 points 1 month ago

Their “apology” actually admitted that they knew about the potential for rendering differences. They say they knew that certain symbols could render as Nazi icons, which is why they specifically excluded those symbols from the email they sent to German accounts.

But if we extend that same “we didn’t send it to Germany” thing to the logical conclusion, it means they intentionally sent it to everyone else even when knowing the potential for issues.

[-] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 81 points 1 month ago

I made a complaint last year about one of their emails having a giant banner saying "MAKE GAMING GREAT AGAIN!" they made mildly appropriate noises. Seemed like the person on the other end really just wanted me to fuck entirely off asap.

[-] hikaru755@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago

they specifically excluded those symbols from the email they sent to German accounts

And even that they fucked up, because it seems like they just removed them from the German language version of the email. German accounts set to English (like mine) got the symbols like everyone else.

[-] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 84 points 1 month ago

My favorite part was that GoG was told they cannot send this email in Germany because it would break the Nazi rule so they purposely get blocked their emails to getting to Germany.

In other words, they knew.

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[-] lemmyseikai@lemmy.world 46 points 1 month ago

You forgot to hide your name.

[-] maltasoron@sopuli.xyz 101 points 1 month ago

The screenshot is from the PCGamer article

[-] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 58 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)
[-] Barley_Man@sopuli.xyz 24 points 1 month ago

I don't have the email but I would assume those emojis in this case are Slavic neopaganist symbols, also known as rodnovery.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Rodnover_symbols

[-] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 92 points 1 month ago

Yes, but. Big but.

The devs of the games included in that email signed off on it before it went out. The version the devs were shown had no "runes" included.

GOG has acknowledged that those runes can display on some devices distinctly as the symbol for the SS, so they did not send this email to subscribers subscribed in the German language. Instead of just using a different fucking symbol, or not using it twice in a row.

As far as I understand it, those are pretty random runes, not specifically Slavic at all.

Taken as a whole, it shows that they had some idea of how this would appear, and they went through with it anyway, for no obvious benefit.

Not a good look.

[-] Barley_Man@sopuli.xyz 48 points 1 month ago

Yeah thinking about it using the lightning rune twice is really sus. Very hard to defend that.

[-] nuko147@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Viewing this runes as they are, it comes to my mind the Black Sun symbol as 1st thought.

Edit: shit the game is called End of the Sun.

[-] DarkSirrush@piefed.ca 17 points 1 month ago

The devs covered that, they were not aware of any dogwhistles with the symbols they used during development, and once they were made aware of said dogwhistles, they spent the time to remove them from the game as thoroughly as possible

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[-] fiat_lux@lemmy.zip 47 points 1 month ago

Notice there is no double sig in there. Also note that Rodnovery is a neopagan religion, associated with nationalism. It's the Slavic equivalent the Norse pantheon fetishism you see in the West in the form of Odinism.

You should assume they're Nazi symbols because they are, even if Nazis stole a lot of symbols from everyone else. The sig was first adapted into the double sig in 1929 to be used as the Schutzstaffel logo

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[-] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 113 points 1 month ago

Gaben, "we aren't a monopoly there's plenty of other publishers to buy from"

GOG

[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 181 points 1 month ago

Steam once again using the winning strategy of doing nothing while your opponent fucks up

[-] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 52 points 1 month ago

interesting how easily is for a company to not shoot itself in the foot if they don't have public shareholders

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[-] kata1yst@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 month ago

Where's the game store footgun meme?

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[-] j4yc33@piefed.social 73 points 1 month ago

People can shit on Valve all they want, but at least they never went full Nazi.

[-] CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml 68 points 1 month ago

People defending this as "those are lighning bolts, not everyone knows it's nazi imagery" are american, right?

Like, everyone in Europe knows this is strictly and unmistakably nazi imagery, especially in Poland. There is no wiggle room for not knowing; that's not even an excuse GOG themselves are trying to make, because if they tried to use that excuse then literally no one with the ability to read it in Europe would be uneducated enough to fall for it.

[-] red_sock@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 month ago

People defending this as “those are lighning bolts, not everyone knows it’s nazi imagery” are american, right?

Nah, they know what they are. They're trying to a) downplay the symbol's significance and normalize displaying it and b) get a "snowflake got triggered by lightning bolts" own out of it.

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[-] jagermo@feddit.org 49 points 1 month ago

100 % ai. Llms love emojis in subject lines

[-] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 97 points 1 month ago

The strange thing is that they did notice It and elected to not send it in German instead of just not putting the symbols in the subject.

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[-] PapstJL4U@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago

This is really the whole incident is more than the sum of it's parts stuff, but in a negative way.

[-] shiftymccool@piefed.ca 26 points 1 month ago

The Nazis didn't invent those symbols, they appropriated them. It's ridiculous that a group of assholes can erase centuries of history by misusing symbols

[-] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 85 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The nazis (in particular their graphic designer Walter Heck) did literally invent the sigrune/doppelrune, it doesn't have roots in history and there is no excuse for them to have sent it given they admit they didn't send it to germany. Like... no, there's no justification for this one.

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[-] kamen@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago

"Found my grandpa's helmet. He must've been an electrician or something."

[-] stickly@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

People really tearing GoG to shreds here but I don't really understand why. I'm not a GoG user/stan so I don't have a dog in this race, but this doesn't (to me) seem to follow any pattern of malicious behavior.

  • To my knowledge they haven't had recurring big controversies of this kind that show systemic cultural issues. Their Wikipedia page has a "Controversies" section with 3 events, including this one, for a total of 9 sentences.
  • Even if it was sent maliciously and intentionally, if they apologize and it doesn't happen again I'm not going to get bent out of shape. These email campaigns are run by peons low on the totem pole and hardly get any thorough review.
  • The SS symbol is relatively niche and bland (though I concede this differs by country). To my knowledge it's not the most common dogwhistle or exceedingly controversial. I've often seen people gaff into it when trying to punch up text with lighting bolts ⚡. It's not exactly on the same tier as the death's head => concentration camp connection.
  • Building on the above and knowing that GoG uses ai, its plausible that it could be accidental
    • An intern gets some copy, runs the header through Ai like he usually does because emojis in headers perform way better.
    • The LLM looking for "runes" has a strong bias for pairs of the symbol; probably nobody writes Elder Futhark runes, and especially that one, outside of the SS context.
    • Even if the intern knows the symbol, not all systems render it in an obvious way.
    • The email service automatically filters it from German emails due to stricter laws on Nazi symbols.

I'm not saying people can't choose to believe it was malicious or that it's impossible for GoG to have a rotten company culture. But I'm confused at the level of vitriol. You'd think we were talking about tobacco or oil companies with an established history of killing puppies.

[-] Taleya@aussie.zone 30 points 1 month ago

They ran the ss symbol - except for the campaign in Germany where nazi symbolism is illegal - so they knew what it was and ran it anyway

People responded to this going "hey dude wtf" and the official response has been...not smart

And now it is blowing up

[-] CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The SS symbol is not a dogwhistle. Dogwhistles are meant to be covert and unassuming to anyone except those within the neofascist subculture, like 1488 and triple parenthesis.

Unlike those dogwhistles, meant only to be understood by an ingroup, the SS lighning bolts are as explicit as a swastika. I would go even as far as to say that they are more egregious than a swastika, as swastikas have cultural signification in some countries that might muddy the waters when interpreting the symbol alone. The SS bolts have no such excuse.

Also it wasn't an automatic filter on german emails, it was a filter on german speakers. German emails configured with english as their language did receive the email, according to comments here.

There is no benefit of the doubt to be allowed here. If they don't have an extremely solid explanation (and LLMs aren't that, they know how to recognize actual dogwhistles, they wouldn't output actual 1940s nazis imagery so famous & standard, unless instructed to), then either someone needs to be fired, or we as the public need to understand that there is complacency for actual nazism within this company.

Again, this isn't some little dogwhistle people might be confused about. This is standard 1940s nazi imagery, on the same level of significance as the swastika. I knew this as a child in the 2000s, as a kid who never paid attention in class and found history to be the most boring topic.

[-] sukhmel@programming.dev 17 points 1 month ago

One of the main issues with all that is that there was a review, and they didn't sent it to Germany because of that review. So no, it was known, it is not a niche dog whistle, and I for one am not blaming the intern (if any) who did it, but rather the moderator who allowed the letter to go

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[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I see what you mean

had they used 1 or 3 of the symbol instead, I don't think we'd have this problem

[-] Mwa@thelemmy.club 18 points 1 month ago

Ofc GOG became bad after They started requiring devs to use AI tools for the GOG Galaxy client.

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